If LSU is the better job (over NC State)…

Mcmen - “NC State is a blue blood program”

Also Mcmen- “Wade isn’t any good which is why he could only get a job at Mcneese”

In theory, yes.

But WW steered the program into such a mess that LSU was lucky they could find anyone to take the “opportunity”.

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But WW steered the program into such a mess that LSU was lucky they could find anyone to take the “opportunity”.

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Other schools caught up in that “mess” told the NCAA to frick off and kept their successful coaches

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But WW steered the program into such a mess that LSU was lucky they could find anyone to take the “opportunity”.

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I am far from a Wade apologist. He steered his career into a mess (and seems to have recovered) and it has nothing to do with what's going on currently.

There is no excuse to have a four year stretch like this, throw in the portal life line and this is the worst coaching job in any sport in LSU history. Orgeron couldve walked across the street in 2022 and done no worse.

It was such a mess we landed the 17th composite recruiting class the year after he left. You people are delusional.

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this is the worst coaching job in any sport in LSU history

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Curley Hallman says hello.

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Curley Hallman says hello.

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In over his head no more so than McMahon. He had a much larger spotlight, and no portal to turn around a shite roster in an era of of very little parity. He was complete dogshit though no doubt.

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Curley Hallman says hello.

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No he doesn't.

Hallman took over a program that had gone 4-7 (2-5) and 5-6 (2-5) in the prior two seasons. Notably, Hallman did not have access to a transfer portal to immediately flip the roster with better, experienced players. Hallman was by NO MEANS good at LSU. But "LSU football in the Hallman era was not the "LSU football" it became in the 2000s. It was a program that had four losing seasons in the 80's. At worst, Hallman just maintained the decline Archer had started. Yet, he still finished with .322 SEC winning %. LSU wasn't even the worst team in the SEC during Hallman's tenure.

In 70 career SEC regular season games McMahon has a total of 17 wins. His SEC winning % is 242...nearly 10 points lower than Hallman. To put that in a bit of perspective, Texas joined the SEC last season. To date the program has 15 SEC (reg season) wins....almost the same amount McMahon has in 4 seasons. No team (excluding Texas and OU) has fewer conference wins than LSU over the last 4 years. LSU is the only SEC team (INCLUDING Texas and OU) who has not made the NCAA Tournament over the last 4 seasons. And he's accomplished that futility at a time where it's never been easier to "rebuild" a team given the availability of thousands of experienced players via the transfer portal.

People always say Hallman out of reflexive groupthink. But if you actually look at the data, not just lazily parroting what everyone else says, you see just how bad McMahon has been at LSU. This is the worst performance in any major sport in at least the last 40 years.

Who are the McMen still around? What are they clinging to?