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A ton of illegal aliens have dropped out of welfare programs

Posted on 2/18/26 at 7:24 am
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
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Posted on 2/18/26 at 7:24 am
The benefits Dems said illegals weren't getting or applying for.


Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65608 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 7:27 am to
They were getting more money from the signal chat terrorist
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 2/18/26 at 7:29 am to
How do you get a percentage of who's not doing something? Especially of a number that's already hard to count?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
180869 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 7:31 am to
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How do you get a percentage of who's not doing something? Especially of a number that's already hard to count?



Its in the link of the tweet



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Methods

The findings presented in this brief are based on KFF’s analysis of the 2023 American Community Survey 1-year Public Use Microdata Sample. KFF classified individuals as not having citizenship, or noncitizens, by their self-reported status at the time of the survey interview. This excludes foreign-born individuals who obtained U.S. citizenship through naturalization.

The 2023 data show that approximately 13.4 million Medicaid/CHIP enrollees were noncitizens or living in a household with at least one noncitizen. Households were classified as having at least one noncitizen if any household member reported not having citizenship. In addition, KFF identified 1.8 million uninsured individuals who are eligible for Medicaid or CHIP but not enrolled and live in a household with a noncitizen. KFF applied its health care coverage eligibility model to identify individuals who are eligible for Medicaid/CHIP but are not enrolled. For more details on the model, see the following explanation. These numbers do not reflect anticipated reductions to Medicaid enrollment due to Medicaid spending reductions and eligibility changes, including increased restrictions for lawfully present immigrants, in the 2025 reconciliation law.

To estimate potential changes in coverage due to public charge policies, KFF considered disenrollment and forgone enrollment rates of 10%, 20%, and 30%. Results were disaggregated by age and citizenship, with children defined as individuals under age 18. The midpoint disenrollment and foregone enrollment rate of 20% is based on experiences reported in the KFF/New York Times 2025 Survey of Immigrants. It reflects the share of immigrant adults living in a household with a noncitizen who say they stopped participating in a program that helps pay for food, health care, or housing in the past year due to fears of drawing attention to their or a family member’s immigration status. The share reporting avoiding applying for programs (i.e., forgone enrollment) was similar. The lower bound of 10% reflects the primary disenrollment and forgone enrollment rate DHS uses to estimate transfer payments in the proposed rule. The upper bound accounts for potential increased effects relative to the experiences reported in the survey due to subsequent policy changes, including the public charge proposal and CMS notice of plans to share Medicaid data with ICE, that were released after the survey was fielded as well as ongoing public enforcement activity, which may further deter participation.

This method differs from the method applied by DHS in the proposed rule to estimate potential federal and state transfer costs due to disenrollment from Medicaid and CHIP and other programs. In the 2025 proposed public charge rule, DHS estimated that 3.5 million Medicaid enrollees and approximately 600,000 CHIP enrollees lived in a household with at least one person who is not a citizen, for a combined total of 4.1 million Medicaid and CHIP enrollees. DHS expects about 400,000 Medicaid and about 60,000 CHIP enrollees to disenroll or forgo enrollment. To reach this estimate:

DHS used a six-year average from FY 2019 to FY 2024 to find the average annual number of Medicaid and CHIP enrollees, limiting Medicaid enrollment to adults. Each annual total was calculated by averaging monthly Medicaid or CHIP enrollment over the year.

DHS then estimated the number of households with Medicaid or CHIP enrollees by dividing the average annual adult Medicaid (44 million) or CHIP (7 million) enrollment by the average U.S. household size (2.54) in 2023.

DHS multiplied the share of the total U.S. population that is foreign born (6.61%) times the number of households with Medicaid or CHIP enrollees to calculate their estimate of enrollee households with at least one noncitizen.

Lastly, DHS then multiplied these households by the average size of foreign-born households (3.12) to finally estimate the number of Medicaid or CHIP enrollees living in a household with at least one noncitizen. DHS applied a 10.3% disenrollment and forgone rate to the approximately 3.5 million Medicaid and 600,000 CHIP enrollees.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 2/18/26 at 7:35 am to
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Its in the link of the tweet


Gotcha.

Looks like KFF has some valuable information...
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
94756 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 7:40 am to
Here is the link because it was hidden within another link

Methodology
Posted by Bernie Bierman
Member since Mar 2019
2063 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 7:43 am to
It is well know that undocumented peoples are not receiving any welfare.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
17904 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 7:47 am to
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Here is the link because it was hidden within another link


Thank you
Posted by BuckeyeGoon
Member since Jan 2025
1069 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 8:10 am to
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are not receiving any welfare

This is the word game liberals play- there are hundreds of different government assistance programs but if illegals arent receiving the one literally titled "welfare", then they arent getting any government assistance at all.
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
5137 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 8:35 am to
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How do you get a percentage of who's not doing something? Especially of a number that's already hard to count?

A formula that cross references number of aluminum ladders on the highway and the cost of nanny services.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19327 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 8:35 am to
sic em Palantir, sic em......
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19327 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 8:38 am to
Years ago you risked deportation if you were a legal resident and applied for social programs.

Classifying people as refugees starts the register from the get go now.

How on earth can any congressman think its beneficial to the country to bring in the bottom tier of society and immediately start supporting them....by the millions.....and their anchor babies.....by the millions?
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
22289 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 8:43 am to
Quick question....
If we don't know how many illegals are here, how can we know a percentage that have dropped out?

If this is a percentage of how many illegals currently enrolled that have dropped out, we'd have to know how many illegals are currently enrolled.

If we know which folks enrolled are illegal, why do they need to drop out?
They should be already disqualified and removed.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28047 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 8:56 am to
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Its in the link of the tweet

Once again the jump from a statistic for "immigrants" is changed to "illegal aliens" to try to create fake outrage.
Posted by Pvt Hudson
Member since Jan 2013
4814 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 8:58 am to
This should help - broadcast that ICE uses the welfare rolls as a primary tool in deportations.

Second, tell them they will be outside Costcos on Saturdays. Could use some help with the crowds.
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
10152 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 8:59 am to
good more money for Americans that need it
Posted by theCrusher
Slidell
Member since Nov 2007
1649 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 9:03 am to
Great now reduce the funding for those programs accordingly and block all of them from reapplying in the future.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
94756 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 9:04 am to
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39099 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 9:05 am to
I would to, if I were subject to deportation. The “follow the money “ narrative applies, as people who are in the System can be traced to their physical location. Wonder if they ditched the subsidized Phones as well.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
113907 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 9:13 am to
Odd
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