Trade Deadline Passed, and all we did was get worse.

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We were forced to trade them or lose them

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WTF does this even mean?
No one is forcing us to trade Jose for nothing.

If you don't want to lose him, then you pay him what he's worth. Don't sit here and tell me we can't afford Jose at 4/$30M (Payton Pritchard's contract).

If he wants to leave after you offer him that, then so be it. What's the difference between him leaving in the offseason and trading him right now for basically nothing? I'll tell you the answer. When we trade him for nothing, it was our choice. When he leaves in the offseason, it was his choice (somewhat). Am i pissed Naji left, sure, but we didn't trade him away for nothing. I think it's stupid we couldnt' give him the 3/$27M contract, but we have morons running this team that have us up against the tax line every single year hamstringing what we can do. Trading Jose for nothing pisses me off, and every casual fan of this team. There were women yesterday at my kids basketball game talking about how bummed they were Jose was traded.
The organization is a bunch of dumb fricks and they don't deserve my attention or money anymore.


We let Naji go for $9M/yr b/c we didn't have the salary space to add that small amount and not go over the tax.
We let JV go for nothing, and then watched the Wizards trade him for 2 2nds 6 months after signing him.
Now we are letting Jose go for no good reason, and for nothing in return. I don't give a shite about 2 fake 2nds and some cash, that is nothing to me.

That's 3 players every fan loved, and we let them go for nothing.

Thanks for signing Looney you fricking idiots. At least you were smart enough to make the 2nd year a club option, but you're probably stupid enough to pick up that option b/c you'll say you'll want to use his salary for a trade.

So you are saying that JV for two seconds (one of them is '28 Nuggets) is a great trade, but similar return for undrafted player is nothing....
And you prefer to let him go as Naji (another undrafted player) then having two chances to select another Jose/Naji?
If they know that he will opt out and they won't pay him (cause we never do) it's exactly what they should have done. And they did it right for him as well. Perhaps they could have gotten two better picks, but he deserves to go to a contender and even better that it's NYK.
Now they will have to play more Fears (hopefully) and can sign Bryce.

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So you are saying that JV for two seconds (one of them is '28 Nuggets) is a great trade, but similar return for undrafted player is nothing....

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Where did i say that? Neither are great trades.
And stop bringing up the undrafted part. It has zero bearing on anything. Jokic was a 2nd round pick. who gives a frick now. that has nothing to do with their value now.
We didn't resign JV b/c we didn't have the space to do so, so we had to let him walk. Mismanagement of finances cost us, same with Naji.

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And you prefer to let him go as Naji (another undrafted player) then having two chances to select another Jose/Naji?

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shut up about chances to select another Jose or Naji with some worthless 2nds. At no point has anyone ever coveted a late 2nd round pick. They are worthless. They have a hit rate of like 2%.
I'd prefer if we managed our finances better and didn't have to let a fan favorite who also happens to contribute to winning go for nothing b/c we can't afford to give him a $7-9M/yr salary.

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If they know that he will opt out and they won't pay him (cause we never do) it's exactly what they should have done

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That's the whole point i'm making. pay guys like this. It's stupid to just let them go. IT's not like they are demanding huge contracts. These are mid level MLE guys. The sad part is we don't have the finances to resign someone for under $10m/yr, and these fan favorites also don't really want to be here b/c we are a joke of a franchise.

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And they did it right for him as well. Perhaps they could have gotten two better picks, but he deserves to go to a contender and even better that it's NYK.

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about the only thing you've said the last 2 days with any merit.
Yes he deserves it. I, and every other Pelicans fan will be a Knick fan this playoffs.

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Now they will have to play more Fears (hopefully) and can sign Bryce.

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Jose was never eating into Fears minutes, Poole was, and Bryce isnt' an nba player, and if he is, he's a end of the bench guy that means nothing.

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Where did i say that?

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Perhaps I've misunderstood you, but your comment kind of suggested that.

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We let JV go for nothing, and then watched the Wizards trade him for 2 2nds 6 months after signing him.

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Jokic was a 2nd round pick. who gives a frick now

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Exactly!!!

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shut up about chances to select another Jose or Naji with some worthless 2nds. At no point has anyone ever coveted a late 2nd round pick. They are worthless.

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You kind of contradict yourself with the Jokic comment.

And i deliberately mentioned the undrafted part of Jose/Naji to show you that it's possible to find players with such late picks.

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I'd prefer if we managed our finances better and didn't have to let a fan favorite wh

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Every fan wants that but the reality is that we have a cheap owner, therefore the trade made sense.

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Jose was never eating into Fears minutes,

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Last few weeks he was, JP has only DNPs.

And Jose is 27, we have to start a rebuild, so he is nowhere near DQ/Fears timeline.
Of course if the reports are true and Joe thinks we might be competitive next year and don't make further trades in the summer, that's another topic.

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I don’t take this lightly, but I truly believe most of the posters on this forum could do a better job than the FO Leadership we have.

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I guess it is time to grasp that ANYTHING Dumars does will make the team worse. It is blatantly obvious that it is either intentional or he is the most incompetent trash to hit sports.

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We do not have a cheap owner. We have a clueless owner who doesn't know how to run a business or hire good people, and we have people in decision making roles who don't know what the frick they are doing.

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This is correct and the front page of this board has finally caught up with the Pels reality as a bottom feeder farm franchise that desperately needs to move.

Gayle is clueless and the Saints demise is masked by Shough currently but its rightful return to the bottom is soon coming.

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WTF does this even mean? No one is forcing us to trade Jose for nothing.

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It’s really amazing how many close personal friends of Jose we have on this board. So many absolutely knew Jose was leaving next year no matter what. I would have thought he would keep an open mind and weigh his options. But obviously I was wrong, and he had already determined he would never come back here.