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Let us contemplate the Greenland Paradox

Posted on 1/27/26 at 9:33 pm
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 1/27/26 at 9:58 pm to
And various places within the US.

And *still* would they be better off than being lorded over by Denmark.
Posted by LSUneaux
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Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:05 pm to
That’s exactly how Texas happened. Sent a bunch of Americans into Mexican Tejas, begin to hate the Mexican government, go independent, and then become a state.
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 2:26 am to
What would keep China from doing it?
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 2:50 am to
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That’s exactly how Texas happened. Sent a bunch of Americans into Mexican Tejas, begin to hate the Mexican government, go independent, and then become a state.


Mexicans saw what happened at the Alamo. They got the fort but it was a hell of a fight. So they backed off. And we ended up getting Texas.

Stand up to the schoolyard bully. Even if you lose the fight he will generally leave you alone to go after easier targets.

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Posted on 1/28/26 at 3:15 am to
From my Alamo tour 30 years ago.

This is a statue of Juan Seguin, little known outside of Texas. During the siege of the Alamo Juan delivered one final plea to Sam Houston to save them which Houston could not do. Juan rode back through enemy lines to deliver the message. Upon entering the Alamo cheers arose that he brought news of Houston's soon arrival. But alas he told them it was not to be.

Upon hearing this, the crowd asked why he returned to what would be certain death and he responded "If I am to die, I will die with the bravest men I have ever known". With that the infamous line was drawn in the sand, who would stay and who would leave, they all crossed the line and they all died with Juan.

Eventually Texas, the southwest and California would be free and unite the United States from coast to coast. Who would then go on to save the world twice.

So when someone says one man cant make a difference, maybe not, but one Texan can by gosh.....cue the Eyes of Texas............
Posted by auggie
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 3:35 am to
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Mexicans saw what happened at the Alamo. They got the fort but it was a hell of a fight. So they backed off.

That's not what happened.
Santa Anna kept after Sam Houston's army and Houston kept retreating back towards Louisianna, Stretching out Santa Anna's supply lines and much of his army deserting and going home.
Finally at San Jacinto, Houston found the ideal location to fight, and they routed Santa Anna's army.
They caught Santa Anna in a tent with a captured mixed girl.
She became known as The Yellow Rose of Texas.
ETA: none of this has anything to do with Greenland, but I wanted to let you know what really happened.
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Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 3:45 am to
And afterwards Santa Anna went on to found Chiclets and the chewing gum industry.
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 3:54 am to
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And afterwards Santa Anna went on to found Chiclets and the chewing gum industry

I never read about that
Posted by auggie
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 4:05 am to
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This is a statue of Juan Seguin, little known outside of Texas. During the siege of the Alamo Juan delivered one final plea to Sam Houston to save them which Houston could not do. Juan rode back through enemy lines to deliver the message. Upon entering the Alamo cheers arose that he brought news of Houston's soon arrival. But alas he told them it was not to be.

Upon hearing this, the crowd asked why he returned to what would be certain death and he responded "If I am to die, I will die with the bravest men I have ever known". With that the infamous line was drawn in the sand, who would stay and who would leave, they all crossed the line and they all died with Juan.


I think Jim Bowie was married to Juan Seguin's daughter.
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 4:07 am to
Got it. Sounds like they continued to fight until the Mexicans gave up. Whic is the same as standing up to the schoolyard bully until he backed off.
Posted by auggie
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 4:23 am to
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Sounds like they continued to fight until the Mexicans gave up. Whic is the same as standing up to the schoolyard bully until he backed off.

Sam Houston kept running away from the fight for weeks. He almost lost his army, and his men were calling him a coward openly.
Sam Houston had studied military history and tactics. He had been an officer under Andrew Jackson in The War of 1812 and became great friends with him. What he did was a tactical retreat. Santa Anna thought he had them running scared.

I became very interested in this stuff when I was stationed at Ft. Sam Houston for a bit. I visited the Alamo almost daily, though i never did an inside tour, I couldn't really afford that. I had drinking to think about over at the River Walk.
I first read The Life and Times of Davy Crocket, which Davy wrote himself, up until just before the last battle. It was finished by his editor.
That got me interested in other parts of the story and about Sam Houston himself.
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Posted by Bayou
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 6:25 am to
You're stretching the mind of too many intelligent Americans
Posted by SaintsTiger
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:09 am to
So what made them give the fort back?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:22 am to
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Sounds like they continued to fight until the Mexicans gave up.

In this analogy, that means China continued to fight until the US gave up, just FWIW
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:31 am to
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So what made them give the fort back?



As they fled, General Sam Houston marched with the Texan Army behind the fleeing civilians. Santa Anna left the Alamo at the end of March in search of the provisional government of Texas, which had been meeting at Washington on the Brazos and had declared Texas Independence, with a new constitution signed by delegates between March 1 and 17, 1836. On April 21, 1836, the Texan Army under Sam Houston attacked Santa Anna’s army on the banks of the San Jacinto River with cries of “Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! God and Texas!” The battle lasted only 18 minutes and was a resounding victory for the Texans.

Because Santa Anna was captured like the b*tch he was.
Posted by rltiger
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 10:05 am to
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I became very interested in this stuff when I was stationed at Ft. Sam Houston for a bit. I visited the Alamo almost daily


Here’s a Louisiana Texas tidbit you may may not know…

The New Orleans Grays were the first organized volunteer unit outside of TX to join the fight. 23 Greys died at the Alamo. Their battle flag was the only one taken by Santa Anna and sent back to Mexico City, where it still resides and which the Mexican Government refuses to give back to Texas.

The Greys were one of the few volunteer units to participate in Bexar, the Alamo, San Patricio, Refugio, Coleto, Goliad, and San Jacinto battles. A few relatives of mine were in the fight.

Francis Lubbock’s brother Tom was a volunteer, and after not hearing from him, Francis headed from New Orleans to Texas with his wife, who was my great times 4 aunt, to find him. He ended up Governor of TX during the civil war.

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