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I'm not sure I like Scott Bessent's messaging here

Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:47 pm
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:47 pm




Kristi Noem too

quote:

"I don't know of any peaceful protesters that shows up with a gun and ammunition rather than a sign," said Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.





Even Eagleman in this post


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Bringing a loaded firearm + two magazines to an ICE raid isn’t “peaceful protesting” it’s premeditated.




Now, I won't defend Prittis choices. If you engage with and resist police while carrying, you may well be shot if they think you're trying for your weapon while resisting. Thats on him.


However, Pritti was a CCL holder and he was within his 2A right to carry that gun. I don't like this defensive messaging administration officials and conservative influencers are putting out that you don't carry a weapon to a protest unless you have ill intent. That's a shite line that stomps on the 2A. It's the same line libs pushed about Rittenhouse. "Oh he showed up at a protest with a gun therefore he was looking to kill someone."
Posted by SneezyBeltranIsHere
Member since Jul 2021
4269 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:50 pm to
If you are legally carrying a gun and (intentionally or unintentionally) get near an ICE operation, an anonymous masked agent has the right to kill you with complete immunity. This administration has made that crystal clear.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41224 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:51 pm to
If you carry a gun, you better not be aggressive towards LEO. Thats common sense and it does not stomp on 2A.
Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
3390 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:51 pm to
Where the line was crossed was when he interjected himself into a physical confrontation with a federal agent. Once you do that you are no longer a protestor.
Posted by BarnHater
Member since May 2015
8228 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:51 pm to
What exactly is wrong with their messaging?

Comply with law enforcement and there won’t be an issue.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41224 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

you are legally carrying a gun and (intentionally or unintentionally) get near an ICE operation, an anonymous masked agent has the right to kill you with complete immunity.


Only if you ask for it by being a frickkng idiot like good and Pretti were
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102104 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

If you carry a gun, you better not be aggressive towards LEO. Thats common sense and it does not stomp on 2A.



Thats not what he or Noem said though is it.
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 12:53 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41224 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:53 pm to
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It's the same line libs pushed about Rittenhouse. "Oh he showed up at a protest with a gun therefore he was looking to kill someone."
self defense vs not
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13461 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

If you are legally carrying a gun and (intentionally or unintentionally) get near an ICE operation, an anonymous masked agent has the right to kill you with complete immunity. This administration has made that crystal clear.

“Near an operation”
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14135 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:53 pm to
If you are a CCL holder, you have a right to carry your gun with you anywhere they are legally allowed. Now... it gets trickier if you bring it to a protest, get apprehended by ICE and then apparently attempt to use said weapon you brought.

What I believe you are supposed to do is...

a) not act a fool
b) raise your hands immediately and tell them you have a ccl license and are carrying and tell them where your gun is so they may remove it from your person until everything is cleared up.

Do those simple things and you are very much still alive.
Right?
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14135 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:54 pm to
quote:


If you are legally carrying a gun and (intentionally or unintentionally) get near an ICE operation, an anonymous masked agent has the right to kill you with complete immunity. This administration has made that crystal clear.

Just for getting near an ICE operation?

That's the dumbest shite I've heard today.
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
38722 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:56 pm to
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However, Pritti was a CCL holder and he was within his 2A right to carry that gun.



He had no ID in his possession, that in at least should be illegal
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102104 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

What exactly is wrong with their messaging?



quote:

Bringing a loaded firearm + two magazines to an ICE raid isn’t “peaceful protesting” it’s premeditated.



quote:

BESSENT: “But he BROUGHT a gun. Have you ever gone to a protest, Jon? Have you? I have. Guess what. I didn’t bring a gun, I brought a billboard!”



quote:

"I don't know of any peaceful protesters that shows up with a gun and ammunition rather than a sign," said Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.



They're directly and explicitly rejecting carrying a gun to a protest. Noem says she doesnt know any peaceful protesters who show up with a gun instead of a sign. You dont think thats anti 2A?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
113821 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:56 pm to
Being armed at a protest is probably dumb, but not necessarily illegal.

Being armed while you actively interfere in/obstruct a law enforcement operation? Very dumb and illegal.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26362 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:56 pm to
Minnesota law says you must carry your permit. He wasn't legally carrying. He had a weapon with extra mags at a protest.

He wasn't there to play nice.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
20125 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:56 pm to
Your logic is correct, but liberals are too stupid to understand nuance in different situations. I can’t see anything in the video so I’m going to withhold judgement on the situation. This is also something liberals are incapable of doing. Let’s find out exactly what happened. The guy has a right to carry a pistol to a protest assuming he followed the state/federal laws. If during his struggle he was reaching towards it to use it we will find out eventually. Both things can be true. I’m going to wait and see.
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 12:58 pm
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
8544 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:56 pm to
If you are legally carrying a gun, use common sense and don’t push the envelope.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
172151 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:57 pm to
Almost as if I predicted this just the other day
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7712 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:57 pm to
Noem is dumber than dogshit.

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Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:57 pm to
This should be a tough one for people, but I bet it isn't.
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