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Danish pension fund to sell $100 million U.S. Treasuries

Posted on 1/20/26 at 12:04 pm
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 12:04 pm
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Danish pension operator AkademikerPension said it was exiting U.S. Treasuries because of finance concerns as the country spars with President Donald Trump over his calls to takeover Greenland.

Anders Schelde, AkademikerPension’s investing chief, said the decision was driven by what it sees as “poor [U.S.] government finances” amid America’s debt crisis. But it also comes as tensions escalate between the U.S. and Denmark after Trump’s latest threats to tariff European countries if Greenland wasn’t sold to America.

“It is not directly related to the ongoing rift between the [U.S.] and Europe, but of course that didn’t make it more difficult to take the decision,” Schelde said in a statement to CNBC.
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Bridgewater Associates founder Ray Dalio told CNBC on Tuesday that sovereign funds could start to dump U.S. investments if they stop seeing the U.S. as a stable trading partner.

“On the other side of trade, deficits, and trade wars, there are capital and capital wars,” Dalio told CNBC’s “Squawk Box” at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. “If you take the conflicts, you can’t ignore the possibility of the capital wars. In other words, maybe there’s not the same inclination to buy ... U.S. debt and so on.”
CNBC
Posted by Redstickbaw
Member since Jul 2023
168 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 12:19 pm to
Is this where people say “I did that”. Am I doing it right? I wasn’t sure if it worked for all presidents.
This post was edited on 1/20/26 at 12:32 pm
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45972 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 12:49 pm to
If Denmark was 50% bigger, they would be the size of West Virginia. If they keep acting up, we may ship them a couple busloads of those Soros Minnesota people.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7970 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 1:06 pm to
The total market value of marketable treasuries is like 30 trillion. The daily volume is over 1 trillion. So they are selling .01% of a single day of volume.

Not saying this is a good sign, but some context.


Posted by Redstickbaw
Member since Jul 2023
168 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 1:07 pm to
I’m not really concerned about $100 million but I will be interested to see if this starts a trend and brings some bigger players following this move to do the same.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
25318 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 1:10 pm to
Oh no, what will we do?

The Danes are not really going to impact us in any way possible.

US is most stable trading partner on planet, these people are letting their emotions make decisions, which means they will take a loss.

Do not mix emotions and money.
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
1639 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 1:31 pm to
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I’m not really concerned about $100 million but I will be interested to see if this starts a trend and brings some bigger players following this move to do the same.


This is where I am as well. Plus, what will participation look like in future auctions.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
95809 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

’m not really concerned about $100 million but I will be interested to see if this starts a trend and brings some bigger players following this move to do the same


Orange will just start invading everyone

It will be like an modern day epsiode of vikings
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
Member since Nov 2013
4917 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 3:32 pm to
Doesn’t Europe hold something like 50% of the outstanding foreign held debt? If they sell, and stop buying, prices fixing to go up bigly.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
4720 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 3:50 pm to
That would be reasonable if they didn’t have even less faith in the outcome of committing their investment to European institutions.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 3:54 pm to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39094 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 4:23 pm to
The FT had a long piece on this yesterday. They are skeptical:


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Returning to China, there’s a reason why Beijing has never actually followed through on the long-touted threat that it might dump US Treasuries whenever it has had a major contretemps with Washington.

It’s basically the global economic equivalent of Paul Getty’s adage that if you owe the bank $100, you’ve got a problem; but if you owe the bank $100mn, then it has the problem. Or to use Cold War parlance, threatening to dump the global reserve currency is a case of mutually assured destruction.

Firstly, China’s holdings of US government and agency debt are the inevitable result of its heavily managed exchange rate. By keeping the renminbi unnaturally cheap to nurture its export industry, it has to accumulate trillions of dollars of overseas assets. But to sell these, it would need to accept a radically stronger exchange rate.

Secondly, a lot of these reserves have over the past decade primarily accumulated in China’s private sector, presumably to obscure just how big they are. Brad Setser calculated in 2023 that these “shadow reserves” at the time probably amounted to almost $3tn. If China ever made a credible threat to dump even some of its US holdings it would trash their value and do a lot of damage to its own financial system.

Europe faces the same conundrum. In fact, it is arguably far more vulnerable to blowback than China because of its much greater integration into the US-dominated financial system.

European banks and investors are stuffed with Treasuries. If they tumble in value because of a threat of a European boycott, then it would probably end up harming Europe just as much as the US, if not more so. Moreover, a large-scale repatriation of capital would send the dollar tumbling and the euro rocketing, which would alone possibly be enough to send many European countries into a recession.


Because when it comes to its international investment position, America stands alone:



LINK
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
80137 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 4:26 pm to
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Anders Schelde, AkademikerPension’s investing chief, said the decision was driven by what it sees as “poor [U.S.] government finances” amid America’s debt crisis.


Sure, Jan.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53294 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 6:42 pm to
Lol, the Somalis in MN steal that every month, like we give a frick....100 million lol
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39094 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 10:02 pm to
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Rumours first circulated last month Europe and UK had threatened to liquidate US Treasuries as a 'nuclear option' if Trump does a deal with Putin to end the Ukraine war against European interests. The rumour is back as potential retaliation for invading Greenland.

If true, it reveals how badly advised European 'leaders' are.

They massively underestimate what is practical or legal once again.


LINK
Posted by mike4lsu
Baton Rouge,LA
Member since Sep 2005
2140 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 6:04 am to
quote:

US is most stable trading partner on planet, these people are letting their emotions make decisions, which means they will take a loss.


In 2024, I would agree.

But ever changing tarrifs, trade disruption, high inflation, domestic turbulence are all a drag on monetary policy.

If there is a broader sell-off in US treasuries, a switch by some nations to using a different reserve currency like the Euro, GBP, Yen or Yuan could be problematic in the near term 3-4 years.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
25318 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

In 2024, I would agree.

But ever changing tarrifs, trade disruption, high inflation, domestic turbulence are all a drag on monetary policy.

If there is a broader sell-off in US treasuries, a switch by some nations to using a different reserve currency like the Euro, GBP, Yen or Yuan could be problematic in the near term 3-4 years.


This is the same talking point people keep moving forward as an item that will happen. After a while, these "What If" scenarios get a little stale.

Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
35784 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 5:31 pm to
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In 2024, I would agree.
It was 2022. That’s when the Biden admin cut Russian banks off from using the SWIFT system at the behest of our European overlords. That’s what changed everything.
Posted by Doctor Strangelove
Member since Feb 2018
3390 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 8:40 pm to
$100 Million. Wow, that will break our economy!
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 8:42 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23764 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:14 pm to
Honest question. What else do they buy? You can’t just sell and do nothing. You gotta have something better to buy so what would that be?
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