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Zion, Poole and Murray will make a combined $108.9m next season

Posted on 12/28/25 at 6:14 pm
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 6:14 pm
A combined Griff/Dumars masterclass of idiocy.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 6:25 pm to
Why throw Dumars in there? He had nothing to do with Murray/ Z and if you'd actually rather CJ > Poole/ Bey then idk what to tell you.

DJ could still be the best player on our roster.
Posted by Macintosh
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 6:28 pm to
changes need to be made asap
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 6:29 pm to
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ather CJ > Poole/ Bey then idk what to tell you.


I'd rather not be locked in for Poole for two more years after this. CJ is off Washington's books after this year. It was a bad trade.

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DJ could still be the best player on our roster.


Then we are destined to never win anything.
This post was edited on 12/28/25 at 6:30 pm
Posted by ned nederlander
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 8:50 pm to
The best bench money can buy.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 8:57 pm to
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I'd rather not be locked in for Poole for two more years after this. 

Well thankfully we aren't either.

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CJ is off Washington's books after this year. It was a bad trade.

Why do people constantly think that LOSING the salary from CJ/ Zion without replacing it helps us? Its the dumbest opinion on here this season.

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Then we are destined to never win anything

How can you have this opinion while also being dense enough to think that letting CJ/ Z walk and losing that salary helps us? We are destined to never win anything but you expect us to use the space from CJ to do what? Sign imaginary elite level players with pur $5mil cap space? Shits hilarious.
This post was edited on 12/28/25 at 8:59 pm
Posted by Chalkywhite84
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 8:57 pm to
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I'd rather not be locked in for Poole for two more years after this. CJ is off Washington's books after this year. It was a bad trade.



Luckily poole only has one year left on his contract. If he had 2 left after this yr that would be horrible.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 8:59 pm to
The amount of idiots that don't understand having Poole gives us $30mil to use and NOT having Poole/ CJ gives us NOTHING to use is astonishing. Y'all really don't even know wtf you are saying.

Pelicans having Poole for $30mil and being able to take back $30mil is a good thing.

Pelicans having Z for $40mil and being able to take back $40mil is a good thing.

Whatever bullshite "could have" "should have" response to this doesn't matter. Having them now is better than not having them now. We do not gain anything not having those guys.
This post was edited on 12/28/25 at 9:05 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 9:06 pm to
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The amount of idiots that don't understand



Says the guy who thinks Dejounte fricking Murray is the best player on our roster

And ftr, I was not under the impression that if we kept and let CJ walk after this year that we'd have $30m to spend.

We need to start clearing the books though for a rebuild, not trading around like for like salaries in hopes of a quick fix.
This post was edited on 12/28/25 at 9:08 pm
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 9:14 pm to
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We need to start clearing the books though for a rebuild, not trading around like for like salaries in hopes of a quick fix

Clearing the books doesn't help you. You really don't understand what you are saying. We have $156mil in cap space. We can spend up to $189mil because of the contracts already on the roster. If you get rid of Pooles $30mil instead of having $189mil next year you now have $156mil accounted for and only $3mil to spend.

What helps more? $3mil on a FA or a player up to $30mil from somewhere else?

Having that extra space only helps if we have to pay Trey, Herb, Queen, Fears, etch. Guess what we don't have to do for the next 3+ years? The answer is pay Trey, Herb, Queen, Fears etccc. Whatever imaginary space you are talking about doesn't really exist and doesn't actually help us unless that person is already on the roster.

Letting Poole, CJ, Z walk doesn't help us it hurts us. The only way those things help us is if we take back players that we can re-sign.

For this example Bey is that player. The extra $ in a trade helped us potentially get another long term piece that we wouldn't have gotten in FA or with "space".
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 9:16 pm to
You typed all that when all you had to say was that you’re cool with the play-in being our perpetual ceiling
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 9:21 pm to
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Says the guy who thinks Dejounte fricking Murray is the best player on our roster

Who is the best player on our roster then? You do know he's our only 2 way player? He is the only player on our team who is top 3 on both offense and defense. You don't think the guy who at his best averaged 21pts/ 8reb/ 9ast/ 2stl in a season can be our best player?

Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
79270 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 9:25 pm to
Lol you’re off the rails
Posted by bigbonvi
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 9:54 pm to
You keep big contracts during a rebuild so you can later convert them into picks, young players, or cap relief when it actually matters.

That’s how:
OKC rebuilt
Utah rebuilt
Brooklyn rebuilt
Houston rebuilt

Nobody rebuilt by “clearing the books early.”
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 9:58 pm to
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Utah rebuilt
Brooklyn rebuilt


What did they rebuild?

And no shite we need picks. We're not getting lottery picks from Poole and Murray's contracts.
Posted by bigbonvi
Member since Apr 2015
145 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 10:01 pm to
All I’m sayin is…
1. Letting CJ/Poole expire does not create cap space
2. Over the cap teams replace salary via trades, not free agency
3. Big contracts are tools, not commitments
4. Rebuilding means converting salary into assets, not deleting salary
5. You can rebuild and keep Poole/Zion—those are not opposites


And your kidding about Utah and Brooklyn right?
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 7:19 am to
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We need to start clearing the books though for a rebuild, not trading around like for like salaries in hopes of a quick fix.


But we aren't a free-agent destination, so we don't need to clean out salary. We are required to spend 90% of the cap, in any case. We can only build the team through trades and through the draft.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 9:01 am to
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Lol you’re off the rails

I absolutely love that this response or "calm down" is always the go to response instead of actually answering the questions or admitting I have a point. I'm off the rails for explaining something that you don't understand?

You started with a false statement about Poole and followed it up with admitting that you don't have a clue about the cap/ salary situation but then say I'm off the rails for breaking it down for you?

I'm so sick of trying to help people understand shite only for them to call me crazy/ off the rails for simply providing information.
This post was edited on 12/29/25 at 9:24 am
Posted by Split2874
Mandeville
Member since Jul 2012
3252 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 9:37 am to
The NBA salary cap is a little confusing.
Posted by bigbonvi
Member since Apr 2015
145 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 9:37 am to
Preach! Haha

It can be confusing though
The way I see it….
Maybe Years 3 to 4 of Queen/Fears

This is the money phase.

By then:
Queen/Fears have real impact metrics
League knows what they are
Other teams start calling you

Now you:
Trade vets for:
Younger fits
Picks aligned to Queen/Fears age
Or a third piece that fits their style
Use expiring contracts as leverage, not losses

This is when shedding salary actually creates value. I could be off but that seems to be close to the formula others have used recently
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