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leveling a pier and beam house
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:07 am
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:07 am
its a small 900 sf farm house. i intend to use the clear pipe w/ water method to determine lift heights necessary throughout. then get under the house with hydraulic jacks and lift the beams and use stacked asphalt roofing shingles b/n concrete piers and beams to maintain the new height
any advice is welcomed. thanks
any advice is welcomed. thanks
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:13 am to aldawg2323
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stacked asphalt roofing shingles b/n concrete piers and beams to maintain the new height
is that a thing?
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:25 am to aldawg2323
I have a camp on pilings and we used a Laser level and marked every pile with a base elevation, then found the highest, and lifted the rest to that height. We shimmed with treated wood.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:50 am to diat150
a family member told me theyve used this in the past. ive never tried it
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:53 am to Pondyrosa
thanks, please expand. some places have settled perhaps 2". i assume you mean dont try to get all 2" back in one spot at one lift, but plan to move everything up together as much as possible. this would mean lots of shifting jacks around, or rounding up lots of jacks, but i see how that is a wiser and safer method
pleas expand however if youre willing, thank you
pleas expand however if youre willing, thank you
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:03 am to aldawg2323
Get a laser level like Mr porpi used. The water level, while accurate , requires a lot more effort.
Again, use treated wood to fill up the bulk of the gap, fine tune with asphalt shingles or cedar shims.
For greater gaps, best not to take it all up at one time, go to surrounding piers and raise them all maybe an inch or so, as needed.
Again, use treated wood to fill up the bulk of the gap, fine tune with asphalt shingles or cedar shims.
For greater gaps, best not to take it all up at one time, go to surrounding piers and raise them all maybe an inch or so, as needed.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:13 am to 9rocket
ive got a laser, however i dont like that ill have to move it to see around walls, into bathrooms, etc. i like that the water pipe can go anywhere and take a measurement.
am i off base here?
am i off base here?
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:21 am to aldawg2323
green/red laser. you can move it as necessary, just re-index off a point that you know is at level. You can even get two or three of the cheap ones and overlap them for complete coverage.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:35 pm to diat150
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quote:
stacked asphalt roofing shingles b/n concrete piers and beams to maintain the new height
is that a thing?
I've seen it done many times in the past where they used real slate shingles stacked atop the brick piers to reach level.
I don't know how well asphalt shingles would last before compressing. Perhaps he meant asbestos shingles since they are hard like real slate.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 3:33 pm to gumbo2176
The asphalt will work fine, as long as you don’t stack too many, 2-3 at the most. Never used asbestos shingles but seems like they would be even better, but may be hard to locate.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:26 pm to aldawg2323
Just know, as I’m sure you do, that you’re raising everything up with the base, all the way to the top of the rafters…plumbing and all!
Posted on 12/22/25 at 5:56 pm to aldawg2323
You shouldn’t level from inside the house, you should level your floor joist. Everything above should follow.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:03 pm to aldawg2323
How high off the ground is it now? Are you having to lift the whole thing?
I lifted my pier and beam house after the flood in 2016. 1400 square foot with an attached 18x26 covered deck. I used 50 bottle jacks...one between each existing support. Once set I would jack all of them 5 pumps and start back at the beginning for another round. Even doing this there was plenty of creaking and cracking noises...trying to raise and correct something that has taken years to settle into is not to be rushed.
A good, stable level jack pad is essential. I leveled solid full cement blocks or doubled half blocks as the base then used cut 4x4 for cribbing. You want the jack as close to the bottom of the house...not by the ground...as possible. It will prevent it from kicking back at you.
I used hardyback siding sheets as spacers in fine tuning. They don't compress, don't rot and, cut at 17.5, are wide enough to cover the top of a cinder block...gives you about a 3/8 inch spacer. They come in 12 foot lengths and all you have to do is score them and break them across a level surface.
I used a water level under the house to level the final product and it worked fine.
I'd post some pictures but can't from work...maybe tomorrow. Take your time and do it slow. You try to raise one small section a full 2 inches in one go and something is going to give. If the home is sheet rocked you are going to see cracks either open or close, doors get out of alignment or window issues...even doing it slow.
Any more questions and I'll try to help.
I lifted my pier and beam house after the flood in 2016. 1400 square foot with an attached 18x26 covered deck. I used 50 bottle jacks...one between each existing support. Once set I would jack all of them 5 pumps and start back at the beginning for another round. Even doing this there was plenty of creaking and cracking noises...trying to raise and correct something that has taken years to settle into is not to be rushed.
A good, stable level jack pad is essential. I leveled solid full cement blocks or doubled half blocks as the base then used cut 4x4 for cribbing. You want the jack as close to the bottom of the house...not by the ground...as possible. It will prevent it from kicking back at you.
I used hardyback siding sheets as spacers in fine tuning. They don't compress, don't rot and, cut at 17.5, are wide enough to cover the top of a cinder block...gives you about a 3/8 inch spacer. They come in 12 foot lengths and all you have to do is score them and break them across a level surface.
I used a water level under the house to level the final product and it worked fine.
I'd post some pictures but can't from work...maybe tomorrow. Take your time and do it slow. You try to raise one small section a full 2 inches in one go and something is going to give. If the home is sheet rocked you are going to see cracks either open or close, doors get out of alignment or window issues...even doing it slow.
Any more questions and I'll try to help.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:08 pm to aldawg2323
Exactly. Just do everything gradually
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:39 pm to DMAN1968
Great advice, DMAN.
I was involved in leveling my brother’s house, along with my other 2 brothers under my dad’s supervision. A bit nerve racking at times, especially when hearing a loud crack while being under the house operating one of many jacks. Probably a 2 by 4 giving way after years of settling. And yes, doors, windows, sheetrock and plumbing are to be observed throughout the SLOW process!
I was involved in leveling my brother’s house, along with my other 2 brothers under my dad’s supervision. A bit nerve racking at times, especially when hearing a loud crack while being under the house operating one of many jacks. Probably a 2 by 4 giving way after years of settling. And yes, doors, windows, sheetrock and plumbing are to be observed throughout the SLOW process!
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:55 pm to langlois_crib
We had our house gutted from the floor up to four feet but still had a few things on the walls. One thing was a large, heavy framed mirror in the guest room. While lifting the house the wire hanger gave way and it came crashing to the floor...right over my head as I was under the house. I thought the whole thing was coming down. I doubt there is a faster time for a man getting out form under a house as I clocked that day. 
Posted on 12/23/25 at 12:37 pm to Elusiveporpi
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I have a camp on pilings and we used a Laser level and marked every pile with a base elevation, then found the highest, and lifted the rest to that height. We shimmed with treated wood.
This is exactly what you want to do. Cut the shims so the grain is running horizontal, not vertical, and shim the entire top of the block, not just 1 or 2 shims.
Posted on 12/24/25 at 10:01 am to aldawg2323
Highly recommend checking doors and windows during the jacking process. If you have sticking doors or windows and they start swinging and closing properly... you might be where you need to be even if water level shows 1/4" off somewhere.
Getting an older home back to perfectly level might not be what you really need.
Go slow and check often.
Getting an older home back to perfectly level might not be what you really need.
Go slow and check often.
Posted on 12/24/25 at 11:26 am to aldawg2323
I have zero to add to this thread, but I am amazed at the knowledge on this board sometime
Some baws on a football message board just happen to be experts about levelling homes
Some baws on a football message board just happen to be experts about levelling homes
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