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Trump’s tariffs might actually be working as he intended

Posted on 11/26/25 at 8:53 am
Posted by Nevada_Tiger
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Posted on 11/26/25 at 8:53 am
I haven't seen this commented on yet. Some excerpts below.

NY Post Editorial


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It was, by any measure, a lot of red ink. When Volkswagen announced its third-quarter profits at the end of October, the German auto giant said it anticipated heavy losses for this year. The reason? It is taking a 5 billion-euro hit from tariffs imposed in the American market.

Likewise, the German sportswear manufacturer Adidas warned of a 120 million-euro hit to its earnings, in part because the levies its sneakers now face in the United States, while Toyota warned of a $9 billion hit from tariffs.

For anyone following the corporate earnings season over the last month, a clear theme has emerged from the giants of European and Asian industry: President Trump’s tariff regime is starting to significantly reduce their profits.

But hold on. Weren’t we told that tariffs would simply be passed straight on to American consumers in the form of higher prices? That they were a tax on ordinary working people?

Instead, it is already becoming clear that at least some of the costs are being paid by foreign conglomerates and even by foreign governments.


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Yes, the tariffs are a tax. But they are a tax that’s being paid primarily by foreign companies and foreign governments, not by the American consumers we were all supposed to be weeping for. And that changes everything.


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So what’s actually happening? Where is the money going? The answer reveals three fascinating dynamics that the economic orthodoxy, as it so often does, failed to anticipate.


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According to the Harvard’s Pricing Lab, prices of imported goods rose by 5.4% from March to September as tariffs were imposed, compared with 3% for domestic goods, so some of the tariffs were passed on but far from the full cost. In other words, the market has adjusted, just not in the way the textbooks predicted.


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Finally, and perhaps most encouraging for those who believe in American dynamism, is the entrepreneurial response. Tariffs create opportunities and American business owners have already shown signs that they will prove remarkably adept at seizing them.


This post was edited on 11/26/25 at 8:55 am
Posted by Trauma14
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Posted on 11/26/25 at 8:57 am to
What is causing those profit losses?
Posted by Nevada_Tiger
Las Veags
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Posted on 11/26/25 at 8:59 am to
Did you read beyond the first short paragraph? Actually it was stated in the very first paragraph.

They are absorbing the costs of the tariffs instead of passing the full costs on to the consumer.
This post was edited on 11/26/25 at 9:00 am
Posted by BeepBopBoop
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Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:05 am to
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They are absorbing the costs of the tariffs instead of passing the full costs on to the consumer


Yes! And how can those companies avoid taking those losses from tariff’s?

By building in the US.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:05 am to
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They are absorbing the costs of the tariffs instead of passing the full costs on to the consumer.


And they have cut shifts at their plant in Chattanooga, laid off salaried employees and also furloughed 200 people.

So yes, tariffs are “working”
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:06 am to
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Yes, the tariffs are a tax. But they are a tax that’s being paid primarily by foreign companies a


Propaganda.

Posted by HurricaneTiger
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:12 am to
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What is causing those profit losses?

Many products are sold at high margins in America. This gives most companies a buffer from tariffs already.

However, to maintain profits they need to retain the price. If they raise the price based on the tariffs, they’ll price out their consumer.
Posted by Ingeniero
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Member since Dec 2013
21760 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:14 am to
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Yes! And how can those companies avoid taking those losses from tariff’s?

By building in the US


So instead of a charging $100 for a pair of shoes that costs $10 to make in China +$80 in tariffs, they can charge $100 for a pair of shoes that costs $90 to make in Ville Platte with no tariffs. Brilliant
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:16 am to
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What is causing those profit losses?



The Trump cult loves when business makes a smaller profit due to government pulling the taxing levers
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:17 am to
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as he intended


How would anybody know what he intended? They've been all over the place with that.
Posted by Nevada_Tiger
Las Veags
Member since Jan 2025
289 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:17 am to
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So instead of a charging $100 for a pair of shoes that costs $10 to make in China +$80 in tariffs, they can charge $100 for a pair of shoes that costs $90 to make in Ville Platte with no tariffs. Brilliant


In your scenario, the price the consumer pays is the same, and the company invested $ in the US and hired American workers and absorbed all the costs. That sounds like a deal any American would take all day long.
Posted by Ingeniero
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:19 am to
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In your scenario, the price the consumer pays is the same, and the company invested $ in the US and hired American workers and absorbed all the costs. That sounds like a deal any American would take all day long.


I'm mocking the idea that a company would move their manufacturing here for the same outcome. Why would they build a factory here when next week the tariffs could be gone?
Posted by jbdawgs03
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Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:21 am to
OMB! Is your answer I’m sure
Posted by RelicBatches86
Florida
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Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:21 am to
the midterms are going to be a bloodbath if you're delusional enough to think the consumers arent feeling the tariff hit. true or not, they will blame price increase on that and inflation
This post was edited on 11/26/25 at 9:22 am
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33227 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:22 am to
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And they have cut shifts at their plant in Chattanooga, laid off salaried employees and also furloughed 200 people.

Why would they do that on products that will not be tariffed one cent?

Oh wait
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Volkswagen has announced their scaling back the production of the ID.4, the German automaker's first fully-electric SUV.

Lulz, tariffs
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:23 am to
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Trump’s tariffs might actually be working as he intended


This is why the left fears them.
Posted by HurricaneTiger
Coral Gables, FL
Member since Jan 2014
3133 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:24 am to
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The Trump cult loves when business makes a smaller profit due to government pulling the taxing levers

IDGAF what government does to foreign businesses. But keep your chanting from your cult that your opposition is a cult.
Posted by Nevada_Tiger
Las Veags
Member since Jan 2025
289 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:27 am to
Gotcha, so a hypothetical with exaggerated outcomes.

What about a scenario closer to reality that is still a net benefit to the US?
Posted by Nevada_Tiger
Las Veags
Member since Jan 2025
289 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:29 am to
I think there is still time for the policy to show value to the voters. The rest is messaging and politics.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5640 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:30 am to
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Trump’s tariffs might actually be working as he intended


It is too early to tell. These tariffs are only seven months old.

At the end of the day, prices will go up. Margins will be maintained. That is what has happened in history.
This post was edited on 11/26/25 at 9:36 am
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