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I am against seatbelt laws (and helmet laws) for adults
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:11 pm
Can someone make a logical, constitutional argument why seatbelt and helmet laws should exist?
‘But the cost of cleanup and EMT’
How much money have we sent / laundered in foreign aid?
My suspicion: These laws were driven by insurance industry lobbyists
‘But the cost of cleanup and EMT’
How much money have we sent / laundered in foreign aid?
My suspicion: These laws were driven by insurance industry lobbyists
This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 7:21 pm
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:13 pm to weagle1999
Is this a troll?
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:14 pm to weagle1999
It makes no sense that a state that has a seatbelt mandate doesn't also have a motorcycle helmet mandate.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:14 pm to weagle1999
This sounds like some shite someone for gun control or Covid restrictions would say
This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:15 pm to weagle1999
What about subsidizing medical for unnecessary traumas?
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:15 pm to weagle1999
Elon made an excellent argument once against the use seatbelts. Essentially he argued that airbags and safety features are so advanced that they actually cause more harm.
I know that wasn’t your point, but still interesting.
I know that wasn’t your point, but still interesting.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:15 pm to TheGeauxt9
quote:
Is this a troll?
No.
Do you support seatbelt laws for adults? If so, why?
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:16 pm to weagle1999
quote:
Can someone make a logical, constitutional argument why seatbelt and helmet laws should exist?
Certainly, but it would cost so much to get it in front of SCOTUS and I guarantee you, seatbelts and helmets are a lot less expensive.
Save your money.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:16 pm to Jrv2damac
quote:
This sounds like some shite someone for gun control or Covid restrictions would say
How? This is anti-restrictions / laws.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:17 pm to Jugbow
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What about subsidizing medical for unnecessary traumas?
Not even a fraction of a drop in the bucket.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:24 pm to weagle1999
Seatbelts keep you in place and help make sure you are in control of your car in crisis in addition to safety reasons.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:25 pm to weagle1999
Because the state (taxpayers) will be financially responsible for your dumb, disabled arse
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:28 pm to AndyJ
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Because the state (taxpayers) will be financially responsible for your dumb, disabled arse
But that shouldn’t be the case.
If a person decides to make choices the consequences of those choices shouldn’t be the responsibility of others. Why should any of us be compelled by law to take care of others?
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:29 pm to GnashRebel
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Seatbelts keep you in place and help make sure you are in control of your car in crisis in addition to safety reasons.
That argument makes some logical sense.
Helmet laws?
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:32 pm to weagle1999
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Not even a fraction of a drop in the bucket.
Move to a state with no helmet laws then if you want that freedom bad enough. FWIW I never wear my seatbelt unless I go somewhere I know they ticket or I’m driving at high rates of speed and never have got a ticket. I really don’t understand those who constantly get tickets as it’s not hard to avoid them.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:32 pm to weagle1999
I wear my seatbelt and would do so absent a law... but yeah, I don't agree wearing seatbelts or helmets for adults should be law.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:33 pm to weagle1999
how many thousands of children since the 80s when the laws were created would have died or been hurt if seat belt and baby seat laws were in place?
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:34 pm to lurking
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Elon made an excellent argument once against the use seatbelts. Essentially he argued that airbags and safety features are so advanced that they actually cause more harm.
maybe
not everyone drives a new tesla tho
and teslas still have seat belts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:35 pm to beaux duke
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teslas still have seat belts
He doesn’t have a choice but to include them. As often as they catch fire, there should be an exemption so people can escape more easily.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:46 pm to weagle1999
Airbags are great if your accident involves only a single strike.
No way to control / assure that.
No way to control / assure that.
This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 7:48 pm
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