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Trump didn’t actually name any names connected to seditious behavior

Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:14 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:14 pm


What he said wasn’t false

But they put that shoe on so fast it’ll make your head spin

This post was edited on 11/20/25 at 1:16 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:17 pm to
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Mike Johnson responds to Trump’s post about the dems seditious behavior


It's not Mike's job to correct the record from someone else.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:18 pm to
Nothing to correct.

Mike Johnson was asked the question & the law is still the law
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:19 pm to
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& the law is still the law


And nobody can point to what law was broken (with some irony in there, I must add)
Posted by ShoeBang
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:20 pm to


as usual. Derail
Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

(with some irony in there, I must add)


I think we are drowning in it at this point.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:23 pm to
I personally believe what Trump did was more of a warning shot than anything to the dems to watch their rhetoric because they were dangerously close to seditious behavior.

But the lawyers involved might see they actually stepped over the line
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:24 pm to
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as usual. Derail


If Trump wasn't talking about the DEMs in question, and it's just vague social media posts, then there isn't any discussion to derail
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

they were dangerously close to seditious behavior.


Not really.

You can see why with the absolute meltdowns trying to avoid the simple question of how legal behavior can ever be seditious/treasonous, over the past couple of days.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:25 pm to
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I think we are drowning in it at this point.


Just look at all this reaction to people being told to follow the law, and then threatening them with statements like "the law is the law"

No shite. Isn't that their point?
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:29 pm to
Their argument from what I’ve seen is that they say they said to disobey ‘illegal’ orders.

Leavitt was asked about it in her press conference and that was the retort the press gave her

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"Why aren't you talking about what these members of Congress are doing to encourage it and incite VIOLENCE?"

"They are literally saying to 1.3 million active duty service members to defy the chain of command, not to follow lawful orders!"

REPORTER: Actually, they said refuse ILLEGAL orders!

"They're suggesting, Nancy, that the President has given illegal orders, which he has NOT."

"Every single order that is given to this United States military by this Commander in Chief and through this chain of command, through the Secretary of War is lawful and the courts have proven that."

"This administration has an unparalleled record at the Supreme Court because we are following the laws. don't defy court orders."

"We do things by the books and to suggest and encourage that active duty service members defy the chain of command is a very dangerous thing for sitting members of Congress to do and they should be held accountable - and that's what the president wants to see!"
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:31 pm to
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"They are literally saying to 1.3 million active duty service members to defy the chain of command, not to follow lawful orders!"


So that is a lie.

They are not literally doing that.

quote:

"They're suggesting, Nancy, that the President has given illegal orders, which he has NOT."

And this is the pivot-spin the NPCs are running with.

It's nonsensical diversion tactics to avoid having the actual discussion about the actual words used.

Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:32 pm to
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Their argument from what I’ve seen is that they say they said to disobey ‘illegal’ orders.


Which they more than suggest are ACTIVELY BEING GIVEN.

It's all a bunch of being too clever by half goofiness. Which, is why have have zero issue with throwing it back in their faces in this manner.
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:33 pm to


BOO! Hiss piss off
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:34 pm to
He didn't need to. They self-identified in the video.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:35 pm to
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Which, is why have have zero issue with throwing it back in their faces in this manner.


In this manner?

Trump, Miller, Leavit, etc. look like absolute idiots. At best it's muh fight nonsense for angry 80-IQ types and at worst it's promoting the idea that the admin can violate the law/court orders (which the DEMs would love them to venture into).

This is specifically the kind of stuff I referenced yesterday with rejecting MAGA stupidity.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:37 pm to
Why are you here? If your position is that Kelly and friends, didnt ackshywully ask the military to defy the CIC, than in the interest of consistency, you would have to acknowledge that Trump didn't ackshywully charge anyone with sedition. All either side did was throw out thinly veiled accusations on social media - which happens literally every day.

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