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Earning a Masters Degree in Education makes teachers worse at their job

Posted on 11/19/25 at 3:03 pm
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
20415 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 3:03 pm


Here's the full study for those interested: LINK

Schools of Education are teaching the wrong thing are a big reason we have so many issues today. Math teachers should have degrees in mathematics. Science teachers should have Biology/Chemistry degrees. The education degree is a cancer on society.

This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 3:06 pm
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
15023 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 3:07 pm to
That's an old study... I'd love to see an updated study on teachers and students in North Carolina considering that so many of the students now apparently aren't English speakers.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
23935 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 3:22 pm to
Don't you dare call them teachers. They are "EDUCATORS"

Every educator I've met is retarded
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125582 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:00 pm to
Missouri requires their teachers to get Masters degrees to renew their teaching credentials.

Then the schools pay a portion of their teacher’s masters degrees so that they can they pay them more money as teachers.

Huge giveaway to the education colleges with no data behind it.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48154 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:09 pm to
When I started my third career teaching math the principle urged me to get a MSed asap so I could qualify to teach advanced math classes.
So I enrolled & after the first couple of classes I knew I would just be a sore thumb in the class. There’s no way I could have pretended to be a regular student absorbing all that crap.
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
16040 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:57 pm to
They get a pay bump for having a Masters. It's almost like colleges are colluding with the government.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57978 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 7:58 am to
quote:

Math teachers should have degrees in mathematics. Science teachers should have Biology/Chemistry degrees. The education degree is a cancer on society.


Exactly. Instead of focusing on the subjects they teach, grad-level courses are more focused on how to use soft approaches like empathetic teaching (also known as empathy-centered teaching, compassionate teaching, or trauma-informed teaching) to teach from what the creators of these things believe are "more enlightened" ways of teaching over "sage on a stage".

This change from focusing on more specialization in the subject(s) to an attempt at a wider ability to disperse knowledge has necessarily lowered the standards.

Focusing on greater mass appeal means a trade-off on quality. This isn't just for education but for just about everything in life and the understanding of that as a truism versus the doe-eyed optimism which says "we just need a better system and everything can be equally great" is the core difference between how Right and Left view things.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116779 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:16 am to
"Colleges are places for idleness, looseness, prophanity, and gross ignorance." .... William Penn, 1690
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