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Kem Burns: American Revolution is all about one thing... You can guess

Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:25 pm
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:25 pm
Colonials bad!

Indian genocide.

Founding fathers bad!

Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
23718 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:26 pm to
Watching it now and that’s really just not true.
Posted by Django Unchained
Member since Sep 2025
290 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:45 pm to
I wish we could just get rid of all these America hating fools. Parachute them out of a C130 in the middle of Afghanistan.

Our Founding Fathers devised a political and economic system that liberated more people, created more wealth and upward mobility… than any other system ever conceived!
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:47 pm to
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Kem Burns: American Revolution is all about one thing... You can guess


I haven't seen this one, aren't his projects usually well regarded?

Where is this streaming? (n/m, just downloaded the pbs app)
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 9:50 pm
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:52 pm to
I've seen each of the three episodes so far.

The only thing I see that is politically slanted is that they emphasize the founding fathers' affinity for weak central governments in favor of strong congressional powers as a protection from "tyranny".

An obvious subtle dig at Trump.

They also talk about how the founding fathers were no friends of democracy. And now they were terrified that their ideas could be misinterpreted as aspiring to give rights to women, blacks, uneducated, or those without assets.

But that the idea that just about any educated, white, asset owning man could have access and influence in government was revolutionary for its time.

Seems pretty fair to me.
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 9:53 pm
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:53 pm to
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Where is this streaming? (n/m, just downloaded the pbs app)


Okay, gotta laugh...

a film by... Burns, Botstein, Schmidt and Bank of America.
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 9:58 pm
Posted by TROLA
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Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:01 pm to
It does unnecessarily highlight some footnote historical events and attempts to give an apologist tint but they arent falsehoods. I would prefer he stick with the true ideals that drove the revolution instead of attempting to rehash historical herarsay and motives of the “marginalized” groups.

They do note that it was a time of empire building by all parties.. Indians included. Overall.. I’d say it’s a solid series so far for Burns but with a bit more of his personal subjectivity attached t.. he’s always willing to present some hard truths vs a purely nationalistic film.
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 10:04 pm
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:09 pm to
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Colonials bad! Indian genocide.


Yeah, there's a bit of that in at least the first 10m of e1.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:09 pm to
Darryl Cooper>>>>Ken Burns
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:13 pm to
someone PM me when he gets to slave women writing the declaration of independence
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17141 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:17 pm to
I won't watch anything he's involved in. He's a white guilt PBS schill.
Posted by Go_Dawgs
Member since Nov 2012
1016 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:19 pm to
Havent watched yet, but just seeing more recent interviews of this guy, he seems like a 1st world apologist.

His older stuff was good and didnt mire itself into wallowing at the same trough like the other pigs wanting clicks or votes.

Dont know if I really give two shits what he thinks now or that I care to watch him tell any other "stories".

Yes, America did some messed up crap and we still do to an extent, but history is written by the victors and the modern lens being used to revisit the past is retarded.

And if I am being honest, I really dont care what someone's ancestors went through. All of us had someone in our family tree that were enslaved and/or in chains. Boo-hoo.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
12678 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:21 pm to
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I won't watch anything he's involved in. He's a white guilt PBS schill.


There is evidence for this.., dude with dreds preaching at about 20m in.


Anywho, I really liked the John Adams series on HBO and also, even though BYU, A More Perfect Union production.
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
7004 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:21 pm to
I began to watch episode 1 but started getting the vibe that the creator is a leftist type. Lots of 'diversity' and left leaning worldview takes
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 10:22 pm
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17141 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:25 pm to
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I began to watch episode 1 but started getting the vibe that the creator is a leftist type. Lots of 'diversity' and left leaning worldview takes


He did a docu series on National Parks in the U.S. and he actually made that about racism. The dude is bat shyte crazy.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
18125 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:28 pm to
It was overly kind to Dragging Canoe the renegade Cherokee. The tribe had agreed at Sycamore Shoals to sell Kentucky. Dragging Canoe thumbed his nose at his chiefs and attacked the colonists. This was not mentioned. It was all the fault of the colonists.

Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
12678 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:29 pm to
Ooohhh. 21:24... talking about "propertied whyte men", with some serious emphasis. Going on about captured slaves... like their own daggum people didn't sell them ...


oh, and indigenous people... europeans want the wealth they can get from native people... native powers were JUST AS important to the global economy as places like virginia or new york.


Yeah... whyte apologist bullshite financed by... nevermind.

Go watch The Patriot... you'll thank me later, WARNING: please seek medical attention if your freedom boner lasts longer than four hours.


Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
5942 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:29 pm to

I find this to be a great documentary. The detail is very impressive. I don't notice ant bias going on. I've learned a lot.

Posted by Kafka
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:29 pm to
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Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Middle Kentucky
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Georgia
Member since Nov 2011
3808 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:31 pm to
Anyone who wants to get the most comprehensive and realistic perspective on the American Revolution should do themselves a favor and read Kevin Phillips “1775- A Good Year for Revolution.” I have read more books on Colonial America, The Revolution, and the founding fathers than any man should admit to but Phillips book is the best.
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