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Surgical Instruments and Sterilization

Posted on 11/18/25 at 6:58 am
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
14880 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 6:58 am
I figure there are enough medical professionals on here to answer this.

How does sterilizaiton work for surgical instruments? Do they use autoclave machines? Is it not possible to have back up machines?

It amazes me that this hospital in this area doesn't have a backup to sterilize instruments.

This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 7:04 am
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
9516 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 7:00 am to
They spray toxic gases all over it, and then you hear class action lawsuit commercials on the radio telling you you’re entitled to compensation.
Posted by Tdogg78
Member since Aug 2018
210 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 7:25 am to
Autoclave for reusable instruments.
Gamma irradiation and ethylene oxide is also approved for sterilization.
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
14350 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 7:28 am to
Ugh. What kind are we talking…Steam, High level, gravity?

Hospitals will have multiple.

Depending on size and specialty of the ASC, office based practice, or Dental office, they will at least have a countertop machine up to 1 or more larger sized autoclaves.

If the hospital has a steam system and the steam system goes down, then all autoclaves will have to be tested and cycled when the steam comes back up. A cycle of instruments can take up to 45 minutes to sterilize, then another 45 minutes to cool, so you’re looking at a 2 hr turn, that’s if the ladies in Sterile Processing like you.

This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 7:36 am
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39826 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 7:42 am to
quote:

How does sterilizaiton work for surgical instruments?


At home, while not always surgical, I use rubbing alcohol to clean an instrument, i.e. a knife or scissors to dig or open up.

If rubbing alochol is not available, I'll go to the medicine cabinet and rub some Tussin on it.
Posted by crash1211
Houma
Member since May 2008
3600 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 7:51 am to
You forgot Dr. Tichenor's Antiseptic. That shite should kill any germs around.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
155266 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 7:56 am to
I just assume they throw it all into giant containers of the blue shite at barber shops:

Posted by GusMcRae
Deep in the heart of the Big Sleazy
Member since Oct 2008
3697 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 8:16 am to
Short answer is they are manually washed by hand to remove gross contaminants (pieces parts), then are run through a washer (much like a powerful dishwasher) using high level disinfectant chemicals, then high pressure/temperature steam sterilization (autoclaves).

Most facilities would have several washers and sterilizers. Instruments which cannot tolerate high pressure/temps are sterilized in another machine which uses a “chemical plasma cloud”. They should have a few of these as well.

There are also ultrasonic cleaners for delicate instruments.

This entire cycle including cooling time takes 4-5 hours. Adequate inventory of instruments and sets should allow for backups, but depending on the types of cases scheduled on a given day, and financial constraints that may not always be possible.
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 8:48 am
Posted by Witty_Username
Member since Jul 2021
673 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 8:23 am to
I know exactly which facility you're talking about. My wife (no pics) was venting to me about it yesterday.
Posted by CajunLife
Southern Georgia
Member since Apr 2017
725 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 8:25 am to
We have two steam autoclaves so if one goes down we are still in business. We also keep a 3rd that's older in storage just in case
Posted by Deep Purple Haze
LA
Member since Jun 2007
67439 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 8:26 am to
prob a speed queen dishwasher
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
20334 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 8:44 am to
quote:

We also keep a 3rd that's older in storage just in case

I got a hell of deal buying this one from an oral surgeon. Nice all american 75x at 1/3 of the price. I still run that beast outside, because something about doing it inside my home, while there, concerns me
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
14880 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 8:53 am to
quote:

I know exactly which facility you're talking about. My wife (no pics) was venting to me about it yesterday.


They're nice there. They needed to do a procedure on my FIL but could not until today due to that issue.

Are they one of the many hospitals that have been boutght out by PEG?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
78693 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:06 am to
quote:

Short answer is they are manually washed by hand to remove gross contaminants (pieces parts), then are run through a washer (much like a powerful dishwasher) using high level disinfectant chemicals, then high pressure/temperature steam sterilization (autoclaves).


Correct.

The autoclave is the most important part. 274 degrees and high pressure. You put the instruments in pouches with an indicator that changes color to show the necessary temperature was achieved.
Posted by Witty_Username
Member since Jul 2021
673 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:06 am to
I don't think it was PEG, but the hospital I'm referring to was bought out by a different private equity firm. They purchased it from a previous private equity firm that ran into the ground and are attempting to build it back up.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23469 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:10 am to
We make surgical instruments and it dawned on me one day as to why so much stuff in the medical field is so damn expensive. Most everything we make and ship goes in a "kit" for a surgeon and is marked with the "do not reuse" symbol. When they could easily sterilize and reuse as it is all stainless steel.
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
14880 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:17 am to
They are now owned by HSA i believe.
Posted by DivotBreath
On the course
Member since Oct 2007
3701 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:20 am to
OP must have watched “Death by Lightening”.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
21044 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:21 am to
Time
Temperature
Pressure

One must meet all three criteria to meet sterilization standards. There are a number of machines that do this, from quite large Autoclaves to countertop units. Then you have gravity fed and then the class B sterilizers.

But before even getting to an autoclave you need to sanitize first and that is where ideally you have mechanical processes rather than hand scrubbing which leaves the HCP vulnerable to stick injuries.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
147815 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:21 am to
Let me ask Bowie Dick and I’ll get back to you
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