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Posted on 11/16/25 at 6:54 am
Posted by HoopyD
Member since Nov 2004
3433 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 6:54 am
The UNO team that LSU beat by 30 blasted Tulane by 20+. UNO also beat TCU on the road to start the season. Don’t let the name fool you. UNO was a good win.

The UCF team that the Tigers beat on the road in a scrimmage beat Texas A&M at their place by 12.

We may have a decent team this year.
This post was edited on 11/16/25 at 7:02 am
Posted by SOL2
Dallas burbs
Member since Jan 2020
7470 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 6:57 am to
We are a basket ball school again.
Posted by TigerMoose
Member since Jan 2011
575 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 6:58 am to
Ah the good ole transitive property. You may be right in that the team is much improved. I just think it’s too early to tell. Last year we were feeling great after the Kansas State game.
Posted by Fightin Okra
Member since Nov 2016
6030 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 6:58 am to
Until February
Posted by jvilardo
5024 e. Brooks Town BR, La.
Member since Jan 2012
3909 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 7:13 am to
Ill still hold out judgement until January in SEC play.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
41781 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 7:17 am to
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You may be right in that the team is much improved.


I think that is obvious.

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I just think it’s too early to tell.


It's not too early to tell they have improved; it is too early to tell just how much and how sustainable that improvement is.

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Last year we were feeling great after the Kansas State game.



There was a notable difference in how the team played before and after the Reed injury. The team was structured around Reed. It appears that this year, the player who may make or break this team is Dedan Thomas. As long as he stays healthy, I feel confident that this team will at least be competitive.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
44577 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 7:18 am to
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The UNO team that LSU beat by 30 blasted Tulane by 20+. UNO also beat TCU on the road to start the season. Don’t let the name fool you. UNO was a good win.

The UCF team that the Tigers beat on the road in a scrimmage beat Texas A&M at their place by 12.
UNO has moved up to #168 in Kenpom. I wouldn't consider a Quad 4 win a "good win", but hopefully it'll end up Quad 3 or perhaps a Quad 2, which would be terrific.

UCF counts for nothing season wise, but was a good exhibition win and as someone who watched the whole game - both teams were playing to win. They are #68 Kenpom.

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We may have a decent team this year.
As also someone that hates the dreaded "eye-test" criteria, my "eye-test" thinks we have looked a lot better this early than in previous seasons. I think CoachMc, as he's said, tried to design a team with a PG - Athleticism Inside - and Wings that can hit perimeter shots. I like the makeup there. Also, metrics back up it up thus far, LSU is #39 Kenpom - we haven't been this high, this early, since Will Wade was coach. I'm not 100% sure, but this could be CoachMc's highest Kenpom rating while at LSU entirely.

TLDR:

Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
44577 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 7:22 am to
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It appears that this year, the player who may make or break this team is Dedan Thomas. As long as he stays healthy, I feel confident that this team will at least be competitive.
100%

DJ holds the keys to the team. We have lots of capable moving parts around him, almost too many in some ways (I know that sounds counterintuitive). But he's the driver.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
40989 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 7:28 am to
And 5 minute scoring droughts are still a thing
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
44577 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 7:34 am to
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And 5 minute scoring droughts are still a thing
No team is immune to that tbh.
Posted by HoopyD
Member since Nov 2004
3433 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 7:38 am to
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And 5 minute scoring droughts are still a thing


Started the season scoring 96, 93 and 98……but sure
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
41781 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 7:49 am to
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And 5 minute scoring droughts are still a thing


If you watch much basketball, you know that's a thing for virtually every team, certainly every team outside of the top 10-15. Which no one is accusing LSU of being .
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
33728 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 7:52 am to
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LSU is #39 Kenpom - we haven't been this high, this early, since Will Wade was coach. I'm not 100% sure, but this could be CoachMc's highest Kenpom rating while at LSU entirely.


Reliance on KP is still too early now because there just isn’t enough data quite yet. It will start to become more reliable with another 4-5 games overall. There’s also still preseason bias baked in.

That said, LSU has been moving up from its preseason spot. In large part because of the offense. A few less TOs vs FIU and the offense would be in the top 30-35. I’m pretty confident none of MM’s teams have ever been that high at any point in his LSU tenure.

Short of more 25+ point wins, the next two games won’t show much. It’s the 5 after that where we will start to get a much better look
This post was edited on 11/16/25 at 7:54 am
Posted by BLD
Fort Worth
Member since Sep 2019
728 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 7:54 am to
Texas Tech and SMU will be great tests for SEC play.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
44577 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 7:55 am to
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Reliance on KP is still too early now because there just isn’t enough data quite yet. It will start to become more reliable with another 4-5 games overall. There’s also still preseason bias baked in.
I know and agree.

I was just using as reference for the masses.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287734 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 7:56 am to
We will know what kind of win UNO is by Christmas.

They will play Miss St, Memphis, Texas Tech, and Houston before then. If they can steal 1 of those and then run through the Southland with 1-2 losses, then potentially looking at a Q2 team. But likely Q3, and that is if everything goes right within the Southland, which is a poor conference.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
44577 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 8:01 am to
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Texas Tech and SMU will be great tests for SEC play.
Agreed.

@TTU

then following game...

vs. SMU

That's two potential Quad 1 wins in December.
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