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"Under no circumstances will I ever vote for Donald Trump!"

Posted on 11/14/25 at 7:29 pm
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
41382 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 7:29 pm
- Ben Shapiro 2016

Happily to add I voted for the man THREE times. Check my post history.

And I wish him still the best.

IDGAF I will never support the neocon never Trumpers trying to take over the party now.
Posted by Sassafrasology
Member since Nov 2025
162 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 7:37 pm to
IDK why Trump has to do the bidding of the Never Trumpers. It makes no sense. At least half of his current policy initiatives are Never Tumper goals: enhanced H1Bs, 600,000 Chinese students, censorship, bomb non nuclear Iran, Epstein road blocks, etc. Shapiro and Levin love this version of Trump. MAGA? Not so much.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
41382 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

At least half of his current policy initiatives are Never Tumper goals: enhanced H1Bs, 600,000 Chinese students, censorship, bomb non nuclear Iran, Epstein road blocks, etc. Shapiro and Levin love this version of Trump. MAGA? Not so much.


The same ones who didn't support him during the Russiagate scandal. And each and every time he will do Lindsey Graham's bidding while scoffing at the Rand Paul and Thomas Massie.

It's crazy.
Posted by Sassafrasology
Member since Nov 2025
162 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 7:50 pm to
Paul Dans is running against Lindsay Graham in the SC GOP senate primary. He seems like a good dude. Much better than Lindsay. I hope SC voters elect Dans.


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Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
41382 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 7:51 pm to
Wonder if Shapiro will give his MIC right hand man Lindsey a nod?

Or he's probably too busy leading struggle sessions against Tucker, Candace, Fuentes and Meghan Kelly.
Posted by arktiger28
Member since Aug 2005
5259 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 7:54 pm to
And then he voted for him in 2020 and fundraiser for him in 2024. At least he evolved from this 2016 stance.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
40803 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 7:56 pm to
The Israel issue is the wedge the anti-MAGA neocons are using to push the Trump base back towards globalism. We've got posters here who are back to trusting the FBI, bashing Tucker Carlson and extolling the virtues of Mark Levin, all while pretending to be America first.
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
51970 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 7:57 pm to
His vote for the GOP counts as much as yours and mine
This post was edited on 11/14/25 at 7:59 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51543 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 8:18 pm to
quote:

IDK why Trump has to do the bidding of the Never Trumpers. It makes no sense.

It makes perfect sense. You can’t run the US government with 35% of the electorate. You need close to 50%, and Trump doesn’t have that without what you are incorrectly calling “neocons”.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
45669 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

Ben Shapiro


He's 100% Israel First. Hell, he once took up for neocon crook Bill Kristol over Donald Trump.

I'm not anti-Israel, but it makes NO SENSE for anybody living in this country not to be America First.

Screw Ben Shapiro.
Posted by theballguy
Bama Park
Member since Oct 2011
27893 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 8:26 pm to
Amazing that the GOPs are splintering right at the same time that Dems are splintering as well. It's hilarious to see

MAGAs no longer can come up with a coherent view on fronts. It's like they are 100% dependent on what Trump's whims are for their talking points.
This post was edited on 11/14/25 at 8:30 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51543 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 9:07 pm to
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Amazing that the GOPs are splintering right at the same time that Dems are splintering as well. It's hilarious to see

It’s no coincidence. It’s because both parties are being governed by extremes. And both parties moderates are struggling to take control.
Posted by bamalee
Member since Jan 2009
1255 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 4:38 am to
I don't think MAGA is splintering, IMO. I think Neo Cons or Globalist will never go away, what Trump is saying we are not sending our Troops to fight, unless it is in our Hemisphere or our national interest. It is good to have fights between Ben S. and Tucker.. I'm Maga as hell but I have no problem helping the Jews in the middle east. I'm against getting involved in China and Twiain and the Euro's and Russia. H1B visa's is a tough issue but our education system and our parenting country wide is pretty bad.
Posted by PastorJ
Member since Sep 2024
494 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 4:45 am to
Wait until you see what Tucker Carlson said about Trump. It will blow your mind:
quote:

5 Times Tucker Carlson Privately Reviled Trump: ‘I Hate Him’


Whoa! Anyways, Ben has absolutely owned Tucker. I am glad for it as Tucker has gone off the rails. I don't see how anyone who supports Trump can possibly support people like Tucker, Massie, or MTG.
Posted by PastorJ
Member since Sep 2024
494 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 4:46 am to
quote:

He's 100% Israel First. Hell, he once took up for neocon crook Bill Kristol over Donald Trump.

I'm not anti-Israel, but it makes NO SENSE for anybody living in this country not to be America First.

Screw Ben Shapiro.


Just say you want to hate Jews. No need to try and church it up.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
41382 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 4:54 am to
quote:

Wait until you see what Tucker Carlson said about Trump. It will blow your mind:




quote:

Ben has absolutely owned Tucker.


one is the leading voice in the MAGA movement and the other is irrelevant.

quote:

I am glad for it as Tucker has gone off the rails. I don't see how anyone who supports Trump can possibly support people like Tucker, Massie, or MTG.


Ok Boomer. Go take some heart medicine. You are about to die.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
7650 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 5:49 am to
quote:

It’s no coincidence. It’s because both parties are being governed by extremes. And both parties moderates are struggling to take control.


muh both sides
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51543 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 5:58 am to
quote:

muh both sides

Gerrymandering has nearly removed the need for Representatives to cater to moderates. This is true for both parties.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69148 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 6:14 am to
And yet he voted for him in 2020 and actively campaigned for him in 2024 - a sign that a man who was entrenched in his views back in 2016 can change them dramatically eight years later. How about instead of trying to divide the conservative movement over our few disagreements, we instead focus on the vast majority of things we agree on to defeat the progressive agenda?
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 6:15 am
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19767 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 6:33 am to
Well, he did. So what?
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