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Heritage Americans vs Paperwork Americans
Posted on 11/14/25 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 11/14/25 at 3:32 pm
Long video but well worth the watch. Wall Street/GDP “conservatism” is dead.
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Posted on 11/14/25 at 3:40 pm to olemc999
“Wall Street GOP” wanted low taxes, yet they also supported Keynesian style bailouts and subsidies. “Mainstreet” boomers pillaged this country under their lifespan, federal debt exploded 160x under their voting tenure
They were also OK with figs getting married, because who cares as long as my 401k and house appreciate? OK with drug legalization but who cares if someone uses drugs? Statistically, many turned away from God and pampered their kids.
The libertarians, moderates and “socially liberal, fiscally conservative” crowd had their shot the past 50 years and they created this mess.
Conservatism, in its textbook definition, is the only way out. Socially conservative, fiscally conservative
They were also OK with figs getting married, because who cares as long as my 401k and house appreciate? OK with drug legalization but who cares if someone uses drugs? Statistically, many turned away from God and pampered their kids.
The libertarians, moderates and “socially liberal, fiscally conservative” crowd had their shot the past 50 years and they created this mess.
Conservatism, in its textbook definition, is the only way out. Socially conservative, fiscally conservative
Posted on 11/14/25 at 3:44 pm to GeauxBurrow312
To be socially liberal, you gave to spend money on stupid shite. I don't know how you can be fiscally conservative and socially liberal at the same time.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 3:48 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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To be socially liberal, you gave to spend money on stupid shite. I don't know how you can be fiscally conservative and socially liberal at the same time.
Naw there are a lot of people who hold the South Park mindset of “I do what I want” and try to justify it all as being OK because they are libertarian, freedom!
Now the country has a massive homeless and drug addict problem, all those hombres who came here to work for dirt cheap have killed the labor market and they pillage federal benefits, and gay marriage has sapped the nation of all morality. How many people here would have ever believed chicks with dicks would be a non satire political debate 15 years ago?
Posted on 11/14/25 at 5:24 pm to olemc999
to me, conservatism is about, you know, conserving rather than small government, tax policy, and other more libertarian-leaning values.
i would rather pay higher taxes and maybe give up stuff like legal weed in order to live in a civilized, western country.
i would rather pay higher taxes and maybe give up stuff like legal weed in order to live in a civilized, western country.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 5:38 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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to me, conservatism is about, you know, conserving rather than small government, tax policy, and other more libertarian-leaning values.
Thats because that is what Conservatism actually is. Libertarians fall under the liberal wing, in technical terms. Their chants of "true conservatives" are just ignorance. Edmund Burke is the OG conservative, he believed Christianity should be a part of the state.
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i would rather pay higher taxes and maybe give up stuff like legal weed in order to live in a civilized, western country.
There is no point in having money if you are surrounded by savages who will try to steal it from you
Posted on 11/14/25 at 5:45 pm to GeauxBurrow312
my most schizo conspiracy theory that i actually believe is that the libertarian movement/ron paul revolution was a psyop. I'm sure stuff will start to come out in 20 years or so.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 5:52 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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my most schizo conspiracy theory that i actually believe is that the libertarian movement/ron paul revolution was a psyop. I'm sure stuff will start to come out in 20 years or so.
I dont really believe in much of the conspiracy stuff. I think it gives far too much credit to people who are merely retards with big egos. They arent capable of pulling off world domination behind closed doors.
I would not be surprised if the libertarian party, especially its Mises Wing, were funded by foreign actors. All they do is derail conservative values. Zero policy achievements, nothing but grandstanding and siphoning votes in close elections (like in Georgia).
Posted on 11/14/25 at 5:52 pm to GeauxBurrow312
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“Wall Street GOP” wanted low taxes, yet they also supported Keynesian style bailouts and subsidies. “Mainstreet” boomers pillaged this country under their lifespan, federal debt exploded 160x under their voting tenure
Boomers parents blew up the whole world to make sure that their kids would always be able to have a good factory job with a pension and they voted it all away
Posted on 11/14/25 at 5:56 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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i would rather pay higher taxes and maybe give up stuff like legal weed in order to live in a civilized, western country.
The beauty of conservatism is you don’t have to pay higher taxes because 40% of a conservative country isn’t on welfare
Posted on 11/14/25 at 6:01 pm to el Gaucho
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Boomers parents blew up the whole world to make sure that their kids would always be able to have a good factory job with a pension and they voted it all away
They voted away the factory jobs, but the bigger detriment was they told everyone you needed a college degree, and that only office jobs were socially acceptable. The US has a serious skilled trades deficit. HVAC, electricians, carpenters etc are all going to be in huge shortage once the current owner/operators retire - PE bought it all up but didnt invest in training programs.
Now we have a service based economy where most people make $50k-150k a year and are largely replaceable by offshoring or AI
Posted on 11/14/25 at 6:01 pm to GeauxBurrow312
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I would not be surprised if the libertarian party, especially its Mises Wing, were funded by foreign actors. All they do is derail conservative values. Zero policy achievements, nothing but grandstanding and siphoning votes in close elections (like in Georgia).
What nobody acknowledges with libertarianism is that it doesn’t work without the hoppe school of thought
It’s not palatable to reddit soys that used to call themselves libertarian 15 years ago that no borders doesn’t mean no private property and undesirables can be forcibly removed for violating the nap
Posted on 11/14/25 at 6:03 pm to GeauxBurrow312
PE can’t build anything or even maintain anything really because the main people behind it swore off building anything ever again after they left egypt
Posted on 11/14/25 at 6:04 pm to el Gaucho
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hoppe school of though
Hans Hermann is great
Democracy: The God That Failed is a fantastic collection of essays
Posted on 11/14/25 at 6:05 pm to GeauxBurrow312
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I would not be surprised if the libertarian party, especially its Mises Wing, were funded by foreign actors. All they do is derail conservative values. Zero policy achievements, nothing but grandstanding and siphoning votes in close elections (like in Georgia).
This post was edited on 11/14/25 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 11/14/25 at 6:07 pm to GeauxBurrow312
Conservatism died because it conserved nothing.
The scales fell from our eyes and we saw it was about selling books and cruises and magazines, and the beneficiaries didn't give a rats arse about the very people they pretended to speak for.
The scales fell from our eyes and we saw it was about selling books and cruises and magazines, and the beneficiaries didn't give a rats arse about the very people they pretended to speak for.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 6:13 pm to DesScorp
A society with professional politicians will never succeed long term
In a nation of farmers you need a guy that isn’t gonna beat around the bush with decision making because he needs to get home to plow
That’s literally the best case scenario for a representative democracy. What it actually becomes is some idiot let Somalians in and it was easier to put them all in the same place and now a whole states’ representation is decided along tribal lines because “conservatives” (if you catch my drift) are the only group that doesn’t play identity politics which is why we lost everything
In a nation of farmers you need a guy that isn’t gonna beat around the bush with decision making because he needs to get home to plow
That’s literally the best case scenario for a representative democracy. What it actually becomes is some idiot let Somalians in and it was easier to put them all in the same place and now a whole states’ representation is decided along tribal lines because “conservatives” (if you catch my drift) are the only group that doesn’t play identity politics which is why we lost everything
Posted on 11/14/25 at 6:21 pm to DesScorp
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Conservatism died because it conserved nothing
Conservatism didnt fail because of conservatism, it failed because society became all about the individual and a lack of will to do whats needed. Career criminals, who spend their whole lives cycling in and out of prison, is not some new phenomena. The gay rights movement got its start decades ago, it didnt pop up out of the blue.
People decided they would rather take the comfort of going with the flow instead of squashing moral decay. Thats not conservatism.
If the country tried conservatism, McCarthy would have been allowed to root out the marxists and purge hollywood/media entities. And yes, I know some of yall will say he was a fig, but he kept in the closet. He wasnt pounding the table for gay rights.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 6:24 pm to olemc999
We love Connor and his intellectual defence of far right populism 
Posted on 11/14/25 at 6:25 pm to olemc999
We have to start demanding our identity cannot be obtained by a test.
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