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Would you melt if LSU hired Brian Daboll?
Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:43 am
Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:43 am
Always thought he was a really good coach, but had a terrible organization in New York.
I like his no bullshite attitude and think he would have a good culture. I think he's a much better coach than was shown with the Giants.
I like his no bullshite attitude and think he would have a good culture. I think he's a much better coach than was shown with the Giants.
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:47 am to CatfishJohn
Uhhh yeah, I would. Everybody would.
Daboll isn’t a bad OC, but when you lose as many games as they did in the 4th quarter (most they had two possession leads at that), that’s bad coaching.
Daboll isn’t a bad OC, but when you lose as many games as they did in the 4th quarter (most they had two possession leads at that), that’s bad coaching.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:51 am to CatfishJohn
Yes, next question.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:52 am to CatfishJohn
I really liked him as OC at Alabama in 2017. But he’s got a very limited timeline at the college level. He was also not very involved in recruiting while at Alabama.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:54 am to CatfishJohn
Yes
I find it surprising most people in here are focused on the college ranks. There's nothing stopping LSU going to the NFL level to grab a coach. The pay is competitive and in some instances, more than NFL. The only hang up is they have to adjust to the college environment. NIL, recruiting, etc. can easily be helped by front office which at LSU is pretty strong right now assuming everyone stays in place.
I do think the college ranks are a different beast though and no great NFL coach will admit it but there's no shame in saying they couldn't do it at the NCAA level. It's a totally different game. You can be a X and O genius at the NFL level but watch it collapse in the college game. Players can't adjust to scheme as easily, you don't understand recruiting, NIL, etc. so I can understand why you'd go for college ranks.
I find it surprising most people in here are focused on the college ranks. There's nothing stopping LSU going to the NFL level to grab a coach. The pay is competitive and in some instances, more than NFL. The only hang up is they have to adjust to the college environment. NIL, recruiting, etc. can easily be helped by front office which at LSU is pretty strong right now assuming everyone stays in place.
I do think the college ranks are a different beast though and no great NFL coach will admit it but there's no shame in saying they couldn't do it at the NCAA level. It's a totally different game. You can be a X and O genius at the NFL level but watch it collapse in the college game. Players can't adjust to scheme as easily, you don't understand recruiting, NIL, etc. so I can understand why you'd go for college ranks.
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 9:57 am
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:00 am to MasterAbe1
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Daboll isn’t a bad OC, but when you lose as many games as they did in the 4th quarter (most they had two possession leads at that), that’s bad coaching.
Commanders loss: Trailed 14-6 going into 4Q.
Cowboys loss: Trailed 17-16 going into 4Q.
Chiefs loss: Trailed 16-6 going into 4Q.
Saints loss: Trailed 19-14 going into 4Q.
Broncos loss: Lead 19-0 going into 4Q.
Eagles loss: Trailed 24-16 going into 4Q.
49ers loss: Trailed 20-10 going into 4Q.
Bears loss: Lead 17-10 going into 4Q.
So of their 8 losses on the season, they had the lead entering the 4Q in only 2 of those games. And they had a two possession lead in only 1 of those games.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:00 am to CatfishJohn
I think he's an NFL lifer.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:02 am to CatfishJohn
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:03 am to clamdip
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I think he's an NFL lifer.
For sure. He couldn't get out of Tuscaloosa fast enough. Pretty sure he hated everything about being a college coach back then and life as a college coach has only gotten worse.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:04 am to clamdip
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I think he's an NFL lifer.
Probably.
I just don't think I'd melt as hard for him as I would for a recycled college name like a Jimbo or Franklin. He is young, instills tough/no bullshite culture, is a really good playcaller and QB coach, etc.
I think he'll eventually be a somewhat successful head coach in the NFL after another stint as an NFL OC.
ETA:
Not at the top of my list, but I would only moderately melt.
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 10:05 am
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:06 am to CatfishJohn
This board will melt no matter who is hired..
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:06 am to CatfishJohn
As an OC absolutely not. As a HC yes. We think Kelly was a hothead out of place kinda guy, this dude is way worse.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:16 am to UpToPar
I’m not talking on bringing a lead into the 4th.
They had leads late in most of those games, I’ll pull the stats later
They had leads late in most of those games, I’ll pull the stats later
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:21 am to CatfishJohn
Probably not but you might catch me with a half chub if Joe Brady ended up being the guy
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:36 am to MasterAbe1
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I’m not talking on bringing a lead into the 4th.
They had leads late in most of those games, I’ll pull the stats later
But they didn't.
Commanders loss: Never led in the 4Q.
Cowboys loss: both teams exchanged TDs almost the entire 4Q with no team leading by more than 4 points.
KC loss: Never led in the 4Q.
Saints loss: Never led in the 4Q.
Denver loss: covered this one already. This one was bad.
Eagles loss: Never led in the 4Q.
49ers loss: Never led in the 4Q.
Bears loss: Went up 10 after the first drive in the 4Q.
So they lost 2 games with a two possession lead in the 4Q. That's a far cry from your claim that they've lost most of their games with a two possession lead in the 4Q.
And it's a far cry from your claim that they led in the 4Q in most of their losses. They've lost 8 games and have held a lead in the 4Q in only 3 of those 8 losses.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:41 am to CatfishJohn
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Always thought he was a really good coach, but had a terrible organization in New York.
I don't think the New York football Giants are considered a terrible organization. Of course, their front office hasn't exactly hit on all their talent decisions, but you make it sound like Daboll wasn't properly supported.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:58 am to clamdip
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I don't think the New York football Giants are considered a terrible organization. Of course, their front office hasn't exactly hit on all their talent decisions, but you make it sound like Daboll wasn't properly supported.
Their roster management has been atrocious in recent years.
Stolen from another thread:
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12 playoff appearances in 35 years, just two over the last decade
They had some obviously good Eli years and a couple long shot Super Bowl wins, but outside of that, it has not been a successful organization.
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 11:00 am
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