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Thomas Massie on Trump & the Epstein Files

Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:12 am
Posted by DeltaDoc
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:12 am
Pretty interesting theory that I’d imagine is more than just a theory…

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Posted by DeltaDoc
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:33 am to
It’s interesting when people downvote what they know in their heart to be true over cult-like following of a man.
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:42 am to
He makes the point I've made here: whatever happened with Epstein's clients didn't necessarily have to be illegal to be used for blackmail. Everybody focuses on the underage stuff, and no doubt some of them were, but the larger concern for me has always been who's using the information. And the current administration, maybe for reasons they think are good, wants to sweep the whole thing under the rug.
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:43 am to
The failure of anyone with the power to release the files, Republican or Democrat, can only lead to the conclusion that many on both sides are implicated.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:45 am to
Anyone with any common sense would be hard-pressed to disagree

They just don't want to go against “their team”
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:48 am to
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The failure of anyone with the power to release the files, Republican or Democrat, can only lead to the conclusion that many on both sides are implicated.


Assuming there is actual dirt to be thrown, this is correct. It would be MAD.

I still believe there isn't nearly enough hard evidence to show much outside of Epstein's personal actions/enrichment, which means whomever releases it will be declared to be part of the conspiracy, alleged to have hidden/destroyed evidence. This makes it the metaphorical hot potato, which is best used as a blank canvas to attack political opponents, which is only possible as long as the mystery remains and this information stays in the shadows. Then you have an "empty chair" scenario where you can paint any picture you want without fear of correction.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:49 am to
At this point you’d have to be brain dead to not think Trump is running cover for some rich guys. Perhaps it’s blackmail of some sort.

The perp is long dead yet we’re only receiving morsels of data to shut us up.

Muh Dem hoax!
Posted by onepiecemayne
Member since Nov 2023
842 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:49 am to
Patel and Bongino leaned heavily into Epstein files which is how they got their positions. They are both unqualified af. If they don't exist, kick them the hell out.
Posted by ChanceOfRainIsNever
Far from Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:02 am to
If Trump was implicated then why didn’t the Dems use the files to sink him when he was out of office? Trump would’ve been rightfully labeled a pedo/pedo enabler and finished politically if he was in them and found to have committed wrongdoing. Instead they put him through bogus lawsuits and trials that had no real shot of convicting him.

The Espstein files are one of two things: a big nothing that both sides use as a political weapon to hammer the other because who likes pedophiles, or, what ever is in them is so unbelievably fricking bad that it’ll never see the light of day.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:06 am to
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The Espstein files are one of two things: a big nothing that both sides use as a political weapon to hammer the other because who likes pedophiles, or, what ever is in them is so unbelievably fricking bad that it’ll never see the light of day.


The entire situation with the Andrew formerly known as Prince should tell you that it's the second thing.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:09 am to
Its clearly being used as leverage

We know this cause Bill Gates denies climate change now

Massie said he was providing his own proof. Hes an idiot and needs to be primaried
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:21 am to
If there is evidence in the files, I have a feeling that most of the evidence will point to adultery with young adult women in the 18-25 age range.

Weathy or powerful men woukd want that covered up.
Posted by ChanceOfRainIsNever
Far from Louisiana
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:25 am to
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If there is evidence in the files, I have a feeling that most of the evidence will point to adultery with young adult women in the 18-25 age range.


That and/or bizarre sexual kinks that none of these powerful people want exposed so it was used as blackmail
Posted by ChanceOfRainIsNever
Far from Louisiana
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:29 am to
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The entire situation with the Andrew formerly known as Prince should tell you that it's the second thing.


I think the Andrew thing is because he embarrassed the Royal Family. Bill Gates flipping on climate change to me is the more interesting case
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:32 am to
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I think the Andrew thing is because he embarrassed the Royal Family.


Royals don't get their title stripped for screwing around. So yeah, he embarrassed them, but not because he was screwing around. That's expected.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:33 am to

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It’s interesting when people downvote what they know in their heart to be true over cult-like following of a man.


Proving the point its a personality cult
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:35 am to
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Massie said he was providing his own proof. Hes an idiot and needs to be primaried


People like you hate this country.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:37 am to
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I think the Andrew thing is because he embarrassed the Royal Family.


Well, yeah..but stop and think for a second, they stripped him of his title. It had to be terrible.

Trump took the side of the "groomers" here.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:42 am to
The Biden admin leaked every drop of Trump/Epstein there was. If there were more they would have leaked it.

But let me guess, in your and Maddie’s world they raided MAL, arrested him in New York, changed the law specifically for him, illegally tapped his wires, and broke who knows how many laws trying to destroy Trump but they held short of leaking his child sex?


Such bullshite.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
5394 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 9:29 am to
I've been wondering...at this point, what can be in the files that can still be charged criminally? If nothing, then it's a smear job like with Prince Andrew. No one is going to jail. Which is fine to destroy bad peoples lives, but that's what people are wanting not actual justice from the legal system.

With the way Trump is there's just as big of a chance he is goating people with this.

I say release when the time is right, maybe it's not just yet.
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