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Who could take over a swath of the world faster? ISIS vs Cartels

Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:03 pm
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:03 pm
ISIS in its heyday or Mexican cartels?

Advantages of each:

ISIS had far more foot soldiers and a bigger pool to recruit from in the Muslim
World

Cartels are already like an army and are very regimented in their process. Not to mention they have US made munitions

Disadvantages of each:

ISIS bum rushed cities by sheee numbers. Even city police and military chose to flee instead of fight. Perhaps it was a foregone conclusion they would be overrun

Cartels don’t even control their whole country and they’ve been in the takeover game for decades


Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:07 pm to
Better question is ISIS vs Cartels because you’re comparing apples to oranges.
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:08 pm to
100 southern rednecks with nothing to lose.
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:10 pm to
Cartels. They own half the Mexican military.
Posted by forkedintheroad
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:11 pm to
Simple: which of the two just took over New York?
Posted by lsufan1971
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:14 pm to
Depends on the cartel. Los Zetas cartel are former Mexican special forces trained by US CIA and mossad.
Posted by OweO
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:15 pm to
Where would this war take place? That will play a big factor in the outcome.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:20 pm to
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Cartels. They own half the Mexican military.


Bleedat
Posted by idlewatcher
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:21 pm to
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because you’re comparing apples to oranges.


How so? Both take over territories, both are (were) armed and all inflicted tortuous death.
Posted by PikesPeak
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Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:27 pm to
ISIS. No one loses their job for insulting Mexicans in public these days.
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 8:28 pm
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:04 pm to
Big boobed blondes could control both ISIS and the Cartels but since all the politicians are on the take from these shady organizations, the bbb’s just have OnlyFans accounts instead
Posted by red sox fan 13
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:16 pm to
Depends on the circumstances. Either one going up against a modern professional military would get destroyed. And if they were trying to take over large portions of the world, they would definitely encounter such a force, just like ISIS did in real life.
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:18 pm to
quote:

100 southern rednecks with nothing to lose.


Pretty sure there are thousands of them in Death Valley any given Saturday night.
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
14545 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:21 pm to
Cartels run a billion dollar business.


Isis is a revolutionary funded broke dick federation in the grand scheme of things.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

Depends on the circumstances. Either one going up against a modern professional military would get destroyed. And if they were trying to take over large portions of the world, they would definitely encounter such a force, just like ISIS did in real life.


True statement and probably should’ve added in the geography choices in the OP. Isis obviously took over weak countries or countries in disarray so it was far easier to take over more land in short order. Minimal pushback, a petrified populace are ripe for a takeover.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:48 pm to
its the commies v nazis all over again


Better fighters better troops versus raw numbers over time
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
28886 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:49 pm to
quote:

Cartels don’t even control their whole country and they’ve been in the takeover game for decades


It seems like they don’t need to take over their own country to do business
Posted by Dirt Booger
Comanche County
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 1:02 am to
One just got elected Mayor of NYC. The other is getting fishing boats blown up
Posted by GuidoVestieri
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 8:27 am to
You wouldn't have a link to back up what your saying would you?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292728 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 8:29 am to
Cartels

They serve a market. Without the market, they have no power. With the market, you will never be able to defeat them.
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