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Basketball Observations
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:35 am
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:35 am
Pros:
1) DJ Thomas is the most complete PG we have had since Tremont Waters. More a distributor but a very capable scorer.
2) Max McKinnon is a bucket. Hopefully this continues and he wasn't just hot against an inferior team.
3) We have a ton of size. We have 4 guys that are 6'9+ and then 3 more that are 6'6+.
4) We have Depth. We played 10 guys with what seemed to be little drop off. Now I am sure this rotation will drop down to 8 when we play more meaningful games but it was nice to see 10 guys go in the game and play well.
Cons:
1) Despite the size, we gave up too many OReb early in the game. We seemed to get it figured out but it was disappointing to see.
2) Unless Sutton and/or Reed and/or Miller have the athleticism to really guard wing players, our rotaions might struggle against SEC teams. Often we had lineups of 2 guards and 3 forwards. Again this can work if the forwards are atheltic enough but I worry if they can do it vs better competition. If they can, this becomes a strength.
3) McBland is still our coach. He seems like a nice person so I hope this team plays well for him but I don't have much faith in him at this point.
1) DJ Thomas is the most complete PG we have had since Tremont Waters. More a distributor but a very capable scorer.
2) Max McKinnon is a bucket. Hopefully this continues and he wasn't just hot against an inferior team.
3) We have a ton of size. We have 4 guys that are 6'9+ and then 3 more that are 6'6+.
4) We have Depth. We played 10 guys with what seemed to be little drop off. Now I am sure this rotation will drop down to 8 when we play more meaningful games but it was nice to see 10 guys go in the game and play well.
Cons:
1) Despite the size, we gave up too many OReb early in the game. We seemed to get it figured out but it was disappointing to see.
2) Unless Sutton and/or Reed and/or Miller have the athleticism to really guard wing players, our rotaions might struggle against SEC teams. Often we had lineups of 2 guards and 3 forwards. Again this can work if the forwards are atheltic enough but I worry if they can do it vs better competition. If they can, this becomes a strength.
3) McBland is still our coach. He seems like a nice person so I hope this team plays well for him but I don't have much faith in him at this point.
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:37 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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McBland
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:39 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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DJ Thomas is the most complete PG we have had since Tremont Waters. More a distributor but a very capable scorer.
After 1 friggin game you're going to have this observation? Jesus.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:47 am to Bert Macklin FBI
The advanced metrics from last night weren't too bad. Robert Miller rated as the best overall player last night mainly driven by his defensive rating which was significantly higher than anyone else on the team. DJ and MacKinnon were the two highest rated offensive players obviously. PJ Carter was a liability defensively last night though it wasn't the biggest sample size so it'll be interesting to see how that changes as he gets more games.
Overall the defensive metrics weren't very good outside of Miller, which isn't surprising given the trend under mcmahon
Overall the defensive metrics weren't very good outside of Miller, which isn't surprising given the trend under mcmahon
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:48 am to IM_4_LSU
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After 1 friggin game you're going to have this observation? Jesus.
After one game real game and one exhibition game.
Also which former PG since Tremont are you suggesting is better? Its not like we have had a run of great PGs. Just watching him one game and I will confidently say that his floor is Pinson.
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 9:49 am
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:49 am to IM_4_LSU
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After 1 friggin game you're going to have this observation? Jesus.
I think it speaks to the level of PG play LSU has had under McMahon that you can make this observation after just 1 game...and it likely not be wrong.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:49 am to Bert Macklin FBI
mackinnon is a really good passer.
coach mcwinner should be pleased
coach mcwinner should be pleased
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:50 am to Alt26
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I think it speaks to the level of PG play LSU has had under McMahon that you can make this observation after just 1 game...and it likely not be wrong.
Thank you, That was my point. He doesn't have to be a superstar to be the best we have had in a long while.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:50 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Say what you want about McMahon as a coach, but all of his teams have at least played very hard. Now that we've got some guys I feel are talented and experienced, I think this could be a bubble team if we continue getting high effort. We crashed the boards hard last night.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:50 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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McBland
Stupid and takes all credit from your otherwise decent post.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:51 am to Aforem7
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The advanced metrics
where does one find these defensive metrics, I would like to take a look
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:52 am to IM_4_LSU
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After 1 friggin game you're going to have this observation? Jesus.
I mean he’s played in 61 career games.
1 at LSU
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:54 am to iamandykeim
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Say what you want about McMahon as a coach, but all of his teams have at least played very hard.
I disagree. I think one of the issues is his teams haven't played hard enough. They don't do the things that teams that play above their skill level do like dive on the floor for loose balls, take charges, crash the boards witha vengence. The effort with which CMM teams play is one of their biggest weakensses which was evident during the first 5 minutes last night. After that it seemed to get fixed but it was still there.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:54 am to Aforem7
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Overall the defensive metrics weren't very good outside of Miller, which isn't surprising given the trend under mcmahon
When you shoot 70% (the best of any team in the nation to date), you're likely going to win going away. But you could see some things to be worried about defensively. TSU got to their spots quite a bit with ease. They just didn't make the shots and/or had shots affected because of LSU's size/talent advantage. That advantage won't be there against major con. opponents.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:58 am to Nickoftime
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Stupid and takes all credit from your otherwise decent post.
The fact that you said it was a decent post proves that it didn't discredit anything.
Also the fact the our HC has been in over his head during his tenure is true and he has to prove otherwise. Until then, the head man is considered a weakness. Like I said in another post, his teams lack energy and I think it stems from the HC having a lack of energy himself.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:58 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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The effort with which CMM teams play is one of their biggest weakensses which was evident during the first 5 minutes last night. After that it seemed to get fixed but it was still there.
You're surprised that the team wasn't throwing themselves all over the floor immediately in the first game of the season against a team they were supposed to beat by double digits?
The effort was more than there as the game went on. Jeez give them a few minutes as a completely new team to get settled in. They were probably more focused on being in the right spots and a little timid.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:00 am to The Pirate King
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You're surprised that the team wasn't throwing themselves all over the floor immediately in the first game of the season against a team they were supposed to beat by double digits?
No last night was fine. Matter of fact, Robert Miller did throw himself on the floor last night. It was great to see. I am surprised the team wasn't throwing themselves on the floor the last 3 years. The one year we sort of got that type of energy, we went 9-9 in conference. My response was to someone saying that CMM's teams always play hard. They have not done that historically.
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 10:03 am
Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:04 am to Alt26
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I think it speaks to the level of PG play LSU has had under McMahon
If this was the statement under McMahon I might not be opposed. But Gaines and Pinson were pretty damn good PGs for us on the offensive and defensive end.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:08 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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Also which former PG since Tremont are you suggesting is better?
Gaines and Pinson were pretty damn good from an offensive and defensive standpoint.
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Just watching him one game and I will confidently say that his floor is Pinson.
Idk about that.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:15 am to IM_4_LSU
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quote:
DJ Thomas is the most complete PG we have had since Tremont Waters. More a distributor but a very capable scorer.
After 1 friggin game you're going to have this observation? Jesus.
I know right it was freakin Tarleton St. He's kind of like Hold That Tiger 10 when Reaves was hitting against inferior competition in baseball he proclaimed reaves the starting 3B and that didn't work out too well. Mayne they long lost brothers
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