Started By
Message
locked post

Brian Kelly’s decisions!

Posted on 10/23/25 at 6:29 am
Posted by cybertiger53
Member since Sep 2012
227 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 6:29 am
His moves with Tommy Moffitt; and the firing then rehiring of others, will cost him and his legacy. Did he ever have one? I don’t think so. Where’s the coaching? He obviously thought he could just win, with it being LSU, on talent alone. This man has never won anything at the D1 level!
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
46259 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 6:35 am to
quote:

and the firing then rehiring of others,

I was actually going to start a thread about this yesterday but I got busy and forgot, so I'll probably do it a little later today when I get off work.

But, I was listening to a podcast and Shea Dixon made a little one off comment that bringing all those coaches back wasn't Kelly's decision. It was "Scott Woodward and others" who forced those moves on Kelly. I'm guessing the others may be boosters, but I'm not sure. Again, that's Shea's exact words.

Out of anyone in the media, I'd trust Shea to be correct with a statement like that considering his connections to LSU on a couple different fronts. I also wouldn't expect someone like Shea to just offer up that information unless it's true.

Just some food for thought. My question is, if he was forced to rehire many of those, who else was forced on him? IMO, I think Sloan would be one of those.

ETA - with hindsight, it's certainly looking like letting Moffitt go was the wrong decision but I'll remind you at the time it was widely praised by most LSU fans. It seemed as if he got "stale" here, for lack of better words. Sometimes a change of scenery reignites people's passion. Could that be the case with Moffitt or was it just the program being a mess because of where O left it and Moffitt was an easy target to blame? I don't have a clue, but it's an interesting question IMO.
This post was edited on 10/23/25 at 6:38 am
Posted by Geaux002
Member since Jan 2021
1589 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 6:37 am to
I believe he thought he could come in maybe win maybe not but start collecting his 100 mill. If he doesn’t win he gets fired after year 4 of 5 and rides off with 50+ mil after what he thinks was a successful career. Despite his last 4 or 5 yrs. I’d take that deal
He’s not won anything meaningful prior to LSU. He has definitely shown he doesn’t know how to win here.
But he’s a smart businessman because he will leave here with generational wealth
This post was edited on 10/23/25 at 6:38 am
Posted by how333
Member since Dec 2020
3970 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 6:38 am to
Two of his most important decisions, O-coordinator and D-coordinator, he has totallly bombed. Matt House and Sloan. Two critical hires for any program to succeed.
Posted by Tigrdynasty
19th hole
Member since Jun 2018
3160 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 7:13 am to
quote:

If he doesn’t win he gets fired after year 4 of 5 and rides off with 50+ mil


Excactly. The results and attitude show this is true
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
12634 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 7:40 am to
Moffitt will always be a great Strength and Conditioning Coach. But two things can be true. At the time he was let go it was the right one. Sometimes when you are at a place for so long you get complacent and burnt out. Moffit being out for a short period gave him a newfound fire and recharged the batteries so to speak. But at the time it was the right decision.

However, it would also be the right move to bring him back if we could. It does seem like the strength staff is not living up to what they should be. I am sure there have been plenty of people on this board that have gotten burnt out in a job that they had been at for a long time and sometimes a "promotion" or a job change whether that be switching departments or companies gets you a newfound motivation. Its no different in Coaches sometimes even more so.
Posted by pitchandcatch27
Huntsville,AL
Member since Jul 2018
4079 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 8:32 am to
@ Vandy in the 4th quarter and behind, 3rd and 26 and Sloan calls a draw play. WTF, throw the ball deep, maybe you get an interference call?? Even 10 or more yards and maybe go for it. That sealed the fate for Sloan. No confidence in your QB or WR's.

Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
8248 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 8:42 am to
His best chance at a natty has passed. Jayden gave him a chance and BK bombed by hiring House. BK is done. He isn't winning a natty at LSU.
Posted by tigerbait1.6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2013
4691 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 8:46 am to
quote:

BK is done. He isn't winning a natty at LSU.


I've said this in other threads. Its crazy to think that when he was hired, most believed he was better than O and Miles, who somehow won a NC here. He can't even do that, the fit has been horrible from the start. He does not belong in the South and does not connect with the South on any level. The SEC is too big for him
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
8248 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 8:47 am to
quote:

The SEC is too big for him
YUP !
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
5932 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:03 am to
quote:

with hindsight, it's certainly looking like letting Moffitt go was the wrong decision but I'll remind you at the time it was widely praised by most LSU fans. It seemed as if he got "stale" here, for lack of better words. Sometimes a change of scenery reignites people's passion. Could that be the case with Moffitt or was it just the program being a mess because of where O left it and Moffitt was an easy target to blame? I don't have a clue, but it's an interesting question IMO.


I remember a ton of "Moffitt has to go threads" in the last two years of Orgeron. Our linemen were fat and we weren't very physical but, as fans do, we tend to rewrite history when the moment we are in isn't what we expect or want.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
5932 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:06 am to
quote:

I've said this in other threads. Its crazy to think that when he was hired, most believed he was better than O and Miles, who somehow won a NC here. He can't even do that, the fit has been horrible from the start. He does not belong in the South and does not connect with the South on any level. The SEC is too big for him


There's plenty to criticize Kelly for but the "he's a Northman" thing is just lazy imo. Urban Meyer is from Ohio. Nick is from West Virginia. Lane is from Nebraska. Les was from Ohio. Brian Kelly isn't received well here right now for one reason and it isn't because he's not from south of the Mason Dixon, it's because he's not winning.
This post was edited on 10/23/25 at 9:07 am
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
3716 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:16 am to
quote:

But, I was listening to a podcast and Shea Dixon made a little one off comment that bringing all those coaches back wasn't Kelly's decision. It was "Scott Woodward and others" who forced those moves on Kelly. I'm guessing the others may be boosters, but I'm not sure. Again, that's Shea's exact words.


Is Brian Kelly the only successful coach with 35 years of head coaching experience that never made a good hire?

Whenever he makes a good hire or decision, it's always the Athletic Director forced him to make that hire. It was the same story at Notre Dame.

Ya'll are crazy if you think these egotistical head coaches, making millions of dollars, are putting their tails between their legs and being forced into hires from suits that never coached a down of football in their lives.
Posted by tigerbait1.6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2013
4691 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:18 am to
quote:

Brian Kelly isn't received well here right now for one reason and it isn't because he's not from south of the Mason Dixon, it's because he's not winning.


I mean, his introductory speech at the PMac didnt help his cause, dancing with recruits didnt help his cause. He's tried too hard to fit in here and its turned very sour. Not winning is hurting him more, but Thoes coaches you mentioned didnt do some of the very weird things BK did when he got here.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65134 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:21 am to
quote:

Shea Dixon made a little one off comment that bringing all those coaches back wasn't Kelly's decision. It was "Scott Woodward and others" who forced those moves on Kelly.


Bull crap. There may have been suggestions made, but BK is way too much of an egomaniac to let someone else tell him how to run his program.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
5932 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:24 am to
quote:

I mean, his introductory speech at the PMac didnt help his cause, dancing with recruits didnt help his cause. He's tried too hard to fit in here and its turned very sour. Not winning is hurting him more, but Thoes coaches you mentioned didnt do some of the very weird things BK did when he got here.


And if LSU is undefeated or has one loss and made a playoff appearance with Jayden in 2023, no one would give a rat's behind about any of those things is my point. They are only "things" because he's not winning. People loved Les eating grass and his pressers when we were a 10-11 win team, not so much when we were losing 4-5 games towards the end.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
22643 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:28 am to
The list of bad BK hires here is insane.

Flint as SC to replace someone that has multiple titles

Steeples/other db clown- neither has done it at a high level

Matt house - pathetic DC hire

Brian Polian - worst special teams coach we have had

His first d hire only Cain was good.
Now we have a elite d staff but our o has

Sloan - terrible promotion
Davis - terrible at his job
Posted by Slim
Poplarville, Mississippi
Member since Sep 2006
2984 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:32 am to
quote:

I've said this in other threads. It’s crazy to think that when he was hired, most believed he was better than O and Miles, who somehow won a NC here. He can't even do that, the fit has been horrible from the start. He does not belong in the South and does not connect with the South on any level. The SEC is too big for him
Exactly!
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
5932 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:01 am to
quote:

Flint as SC to replace someone that has multiple titles


In fairness, alot of people wanted Moffitt run off after our team looked fat and soft in 2020 & 2021.

quote:

Steeples/other db clown- neither has done it at a high level


100% agree

quote:

Matt house - pathetic DC hire


I actually don't think House was a bad hire on paper. It just fell apart on him but he had a solid resume including NFL and SEC experience

quote:

Brian Polian - worst special teams coach we have had


100% agree

quote:

His first d hire only Cain was good.


I wish we would've gotten more time with Cain but I didn't love his interior D line recruiting

quote:

Sloan - terrible promotion


100% agree


quote:

Davis - terrible at his job


I really like Brad Davis but when I turn on the tape, our offensive line has terrible fundamentals and ultimately, that falls back on brad. You can't be as bad as we are up front and keep your job.
Posted by cybertiger53
Member since Sep 2012
227 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 5:14 pm to
If Shea said it, it’s must be true!
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 2Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram