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Looking to replace my Samsung SmartThings Mesh Routers
Posted on 10/20/25 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 10/20/25 at 11:14 pm
I've had them for about five years now and I'm experiencing severe signal drops. I work from home and I need reliability. My home is only 2500 sq ft, but I do have a couple of tvs on my patio where the connection needs to reach. I was looking at replacing it with TP-Link Deco XE75 Pro AXE5400 or the Amazon Eero 7 dual-band mesh Wi-Fi 7 router. Are these goods or are there better options?
Posted on 10/21/25 at 6:32 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
Can we assume that none of the access points are hardwired/backhauled to the main router?
Posted on 10/21/25 at 7:26 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
If you wire the nodes, I highly recommend deco x55. Can’t beat value per $ and this is TPL’s best selling and best supported mesh product. It’s also capable of delivering gigabit speeds to modern clients. Its weakness is its 2x2 160mhz radio where you see a major drop if you don’t wire the backhaul. Assuming 6ghz does not help backhaul due to distance, XE75 is in the same boat there.
Eero7 has same radios but better throughout at 5ghz due to wifi7. Deco BE25 set will beat it in price. Eero only wins for child controls.
If you don’t use wires, and want a high quality mesh, you need to go up to higher radio counts and spend a lot more money. Cheapest good option is x95 and goes way up from there.
You don’t need a super high quality mesh to enable better TV watching on the patio, any will do, but if you pay for 500mbps fiber or more, it’s nice to mostly get what you pay for. Also, a wireless $2000 mesh set will still not match a wired $150 set in connection quality. The expensive units are also much larger and uglier.
Eero7 has same radios but better throughout at 5ghz due to wifi7. Deco BE25 set will beat it in price. Eero only wins for child controls.
If you don’t use wires, and want a high quality mesh, you need to go up to higher radio counts and spend a lot more money. Cheapest good option is x95 and goes way up from there.
You don’t need a super high quality mesh to enable better TV watching on the patio, any will do, but if you pay for 500mbps fiber or more, it’s nice to mostly get what you pay for. Also, a wireless $2000 mesh set will still not match a wired $150 set in connection quality. The expensive units are also much larger and uglier.
This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 7:42 am
Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:13 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
TRI Band wifi7 TPlink set was $250 for the three pack yesterday, you must have Just missed it..
for a wireless house, its getting hard to beat wifi7 with the dedicated wireless backhaul (TPL used to do this on the 6e ones, but now its a shared spectrum)
for a wireless house, its getting hard to beat wifi7 with the dedicated wireless backhaul (TPL used to do this on the 6e ones, but now its a shared spectrum)
Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:48 am to Dallaswho
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You don’t need a super high quality mesh to enable better TV watching on the patio, any will do, but if you pay for 500mbps fiber or more
I get where you are coming from, but philosophically, given that 4K streaming only uses between 25–50 Mb/s, then paying for a modem or router that can push gigabit speeds is somewhat unnecessary. While we like to think about them, peak speeds isn't really the number we should care about (assuming if we don't have a service that utilizes those speeds). What matters is consistent throughput and good distribution of that bandwidth across your network. For most households, knowing that TVs are the most data-intensive devices we use, ensuring steady coverage where they’re located makes a bigger difference than max download speeds.
But those aren't the numbers manufactures publish.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:04 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
are you sure you have equipment issues and not interference issues? If it is interference, new equipment will have the same problem.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:13 am to notsince98
2500 square feet is doable by the average router, except maybe the TVs on the patio.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:18 am to notsince98
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are you sure you have equipment issues and not interference issues? If it is interference, new equipment will have the same problem.
I'm leaning toward equipment issues, but interference is definitely a possibility. And not only from your neighbors' wifi, but also nearby comms towers can cause major issues.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 12:45 pm to Lonnie Utah
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Can we assume that none of the access points are hardwired/backhauled to the main router?
I'm only using one port on back of the main router that's going to an 8 port network switch for other devices.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 12:48 pm to notsince98
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are you sure you have equipment issues and not interference issues? If it is interference, new equipment will have the same problem
I think it's equipment because this issue just started within the past few weeks. Before then, I never had any problems.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 12:58 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
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I think it's equipment because this issue just started within the past few weeks.
You your neighbor got a new router/network and the wifi channels changed to what yours are, it could totally be inference.
The first thing I'd do is download a free wifi analyzer/diagnostic app to see what wifi channels are in use by you and your neighbors...
Posted on 10/21/25 at 12:58 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
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I'm only using one port on back of the main router that's going to an 8 port network switch for other devices.
What else is plugged into the switch?
This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 10/21/25 at 1:03 pm to Lonnie Utah
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You your neighbor got a new router/network and the wifi channels changed to what yours are, it could totally be inference.
The first thing I'd do is download a free wifi analyzer/diagnostic app to see what wifi channels are in use by you and your neighbors...
That's a good test but won't tell you the whole story since it only looks for wifi signals. Interference can also come from recent changes to a nearby comms tower like what happened in my neighborhood. I bought a cheap spectrum analyzer and it revealed a lot. There are a couple of hot spots in my 'hood where signals from the tower completely drown out several frequency bands. There is at least one house where wifi barely works at all inside the house and outside is hopeless.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 1:14 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
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I think it's equipment because this issue just started within the past few weeks. Before then, I never had any problems.
Being recent doesn't indicate the likelihood of equipment vs environment. Environment is always changing.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 4:33 pm to Lonnie Utah
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What else is plugged into the switch?
Playstation, three tvs, main desktop computer, one mesh router hub, and I think the last one or two are spares.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:26 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
Ironically (or not), this popped up in my youtube recommends this am...
I think the take home message here is the mesh router congestion issues that most people don't think about...
I think the take home message here is the mesh router congestion issues that most people don't think about...
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 8:27 am
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:59 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
quote:My Google mesh system started to really fall off so I ended running cable to 3 of the 4 but still have some "buffering" issues on TV computers on random occasions.
've had them for about five years now and I'm experiencing severe signal drops.
My question is:
Do these wifi systems/mesh networks need to be replaced every 5 - 6 years? Do they really degrade that much over time.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:08 am to Crow Pie
I would replace stuff every 5-6 years anyway just due to technology advances, but as for degrading it's really hard to say what's happening.
It could be environmental as pointed out.
It could be software issues, either bugginess where your specific setup wasn't tested well or digital "cruft" accumulating that a factory reset might remedy.
It could be hardware issues. Consumer networking gear is expected to be silent thus usually have no fans, so they rely on heat sinks attached with thermal paste/adhesive which doesn't last forever. It eventually degrades and chips begin to throttle to manage heat which reduces performance, if they don't fail altogether.
It could be environmental as pointed out.
It could be software issues, either bugginess where your specific setup wasn't tested well or digital "cruft" accumulating that a factory reset might remedy.
It could be hardware issues. Consumer networking gear is expected to be silent thus usually have no fans, so they rely on heat sinks attached with thermal paste/adhesive which doesn't last forever. It eventually degrades and chips begin to throttle to manage heat which reduces performance, if they don't fail altogether.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:31 am to Korkstand
OK thanks - Now that I have run Cat6 cable to 3 different spots in my house (2 down stairs and 1 upstairs) in addition to the ATT fiber router itself what Wi-Fi hardware would be best today for 3 new Wi-Fi units?
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:16 pm to Crow Pie
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OK thanks - Now that I have run Cat6 cable to 3 different spots in my house (2 down stairs and 1 upstairs) in addition to the ATT fiber router itself what Wi-Fi hardware would be best today for 3 new Wi-Fi units?
I really love my Unifi In-wall APs and their regular APs I have had now for 5 years.
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This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 12:20 pm
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