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Supreme Court case from Louisiana likely to reshape Voting Rights Act, legal experts say

Posted on 10/19/25 at 9:29 am
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 9:29 am
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Thinking about how the U.S. Supreme Court will handle the Louisiana case that could reshape the Voting Rights Act, the crowning legislative achievement of the civil rights era, Southern University political science professor Albert Samuels says he can't help but think back.

Out of Louisiana, he noted, came the litigation that helped end Reconstruction laws protecting the formerly enslaved, the "grandfather clause" that kept Blacks from registering to vote and the landmark Plessy case, which enshrined Jim Crow laws limiting African American opportunities.

“Ironically, it’s Louisiana at the center of this again,” Samuels said after listening to the 2½-hour Supreme Court hearing Wednesday over whether the state Legislature — relying on Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act of 1965 — violated the Equal Protection Clause of the U.S. Constitution when drawing the second Black majority congressional district now held by Cleo Fields, a Democrat from Baton Rouge.

“The court’s six conservative justices seemed inclined to effectively strike down a Black majority congressional district in Louisiana because it relied too heavily on race,” Samuels said. “If they gut or weaken the VRA, the impact will go far further than whether Cleo Fields can keep his seat.”

From their questions and comments, Samuels said, the court’s six conservative justices appear open to the arguments by the Louisiana Attorney General’s Office and the dozen White Louisiana voters, called the Callais litigants, who claimed the Constitution forbids configuring election districts based on race. Louisiana contends lower courts essentially forced the Legislature to draw a second Black majority district by lower courts.

At issue is Section 2, which allows race to play a role in redistricting when minority voter strength is diluted by packing single districts and spreading the rest of the minority population across White-majority districts.

Samuels’ observations echoed national legal commentators.

Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 9:37 am to
If only somebody could explain it to us like we are five years old.
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 9:45 am to
Using race as a basis to draw voting districts is as undemocratic as not treating blacks like real people during slavery.

Why race? Why not gender? Why not income levels? Height?

Why should a race based demographic get special consideration for representation? Your basically saying all blacks have the same interests based solely on their skin color.
This post was edited on 10/19/25 at 9:46 am
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 9:49 am to
Yes. Good argument.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:00 am to
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Why race? Why not gender? Why not income levels? Height?


This is where it’s all headed. If you create a district based on race, you can create a district based on sexual orientation or whatever such nonsense gives you another toe hold in power
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:01 am to
Yep that's why the SCOTUS should strike down that part of the VRA.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:03 am to
It was never meant to be permanent anyway.

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The original special provisions of the Voting Rights Act (VRA) of 1965 were set to expire in 1970. However, Congress has repeatedly reauthorized the act over the years.


It has been extended many times...

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1970: Extended the special provisions for five more years.

1975: Extended the provisions for seven years and expanded protections to "language minority groups".

1982: Renewed the provisions for 25 years.

2006: The Fannie Lou Hamer, Rosa Parks, and Coretta Scott King Voting Rights Act Reauthorization and Amendments Act of 2006 extended the special provisions for an additional 25 years, until 2031.


Explain me how we went from 5yrs, to another 5, to another 7, to TWENTY-FIVE, to ANOTHER 25.

It was meant to last 5yrs... not nearly 70.


Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:03 am to
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At issue is Section 2, which allows race to play a role in redistricting when minority voter strength is diluted by packing single districts and spreading the rest of the minority population across White-majority districts.



Is like we like the idea of not basing things on racial preference, but just can’t help ourselves. The concept of not being racist is admirable, but we just don’t have the courage to be consistent in our outrage or application.

Hold one people’s feet to the fire for racial preferences and injustices, but not the other.

Tell me again how racial preferences are immoral again democrats?


Posted by tigeraddict
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:04 am to
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Why race? Why not gender? Why not income levels? Height?


Exactly.

Districts should be geographically built. They should start at the major metro areas and add in while parishes/counties in an outward radius from the center of the metro area, until they reach the population level required.

For large metro areas with a population to create multiple districts, they should start with continuous voting precincts until filled. Starting at a center radius And moving out .

None of the “z” district that LA had for Cleo in the late 90s/early 2000’s. And none of this down the river, skirt suburbs and only grab minority districts. Dividing parishes to create a majority black district.
Posted by Tarps99
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:06 am to
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Using race as a basis to draw voting districts is as undemocratic as not treating blacks like real people during slavery. Why race? Why not gender? Why not income levels? Height? Why should a race based demographic get special consideration for representation? Your basically saying all blacks have the same interests based solely on their skin color.


If the current racial interpretation of the VRA is not changed, will that mean at some point will Texas, Florida, and California be forced into carving out Hispanic minority-majority districts?

Likewise, if a parish like Orleans that has a minority white population, could the residents sue to ensure the city draws a district to ensure a white candidate gets elected to the city council.


Really Congress should fix the VRA and abolish rules on the racial makeup of districts, but a vote on this would be so toxic no one would want to vote for or against it. They are leaving it to the courts to decide for them.

Which is why you get one court that rules one way, then an appellate court panel rules another way, then the full appellate court rules another, and then the Supreme Court gets involved. Then you have rogue judges that are thrown in there with their own opinions and agenda.


It is a hot potato no one wants to mess with.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:10 am to
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If the current racial interpretation of the VRA is not changed, will that mean at some point will Texas, Florida, and California be forced into carving out Hispanic minority-majority districts?


1975 called...

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The 1975 amendments came after congressional investigations found that language barriers were used to suppress voting among certain groups. The expansion was supported by testimonies collected by the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights and extensive lobbying efforts from Spanish-speaking advocates. While the protections primarily addressed the needs of Spanish speakers, the language minority category was created to include other groups facing similar discrimination.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:15 am to
How would it reshape anything?

The Zorro district was struck down in the 1990s and Cleo's district is the result of the same Supreme Court (except one justice) saying Louisiana had to have two black majority districts. The specific shape is because Landry wanted to screw Garrett Graves for personal reasons and reward Cleo for suppressing the black vote in the gubernatorial primary.

The gerrymandered district violates Section 2. If they uphold the district they'll be gutting the VRA.
Posted by cornerstore
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:17 am to
It’s hilarious that the first to lose their job when this racist shitty law is struck is perhaps one of the most corrupt terrible politicians in history. Get it done SC.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:19 am to
Creating districts based on race

Is racism

Posted by tossedoff
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:26 am to
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Districts should be geographically built.


Exactly. LA should have districts with Shreveport, Monroe, Alexandria, Lake Charles, Baton Rouge and New Orleans as the main metros. Concerns of citizens in Shreveport are probably going to be different in some cases from citizens in Baton Rouge. Ridiculous to have them represented by the same person.
Posted by ragincajun03
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:29 am to
So...does this mean Cleo gets to keep his district?
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:37 am to
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Is like we like the idea of not basing things on racial preference, but just can’t help ourselves.


Not us, democrats. This has been a Democrat wart on the American arse going all the way back to our founding. The three-fifths comprise allowed southern states to count 3/5 of the total slave population in determining representation in Congress. The VRA and congressional districting that grew out of it is just the same three-filths compromise repackaged. For sixty years they’ve carved out black districts and installed the most buffoonish representatives imaginable because they are easy to control. The people in those districts aren’t being represented. They are being manipulated and purposely kept in a socioeconomic environment where their survival is tied to the benevolence of daddy govt. That’s the only daddy they have because the same govt ran the fathers out of the homes, only to make millions of them perpetual wards of the state via the prison system.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:30 am to
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Monroe, Alexandria, Lake Charles


Some of these need to be combined.

You forgot Laffy which is the 4th largest, but could be combined with Lake Chuck.

Hard one is New Orleans. Population wise if you count the north shore and Houma-Thibodaux there is almost enough for two. Population for each district is roughly 750k. That is Orleans and Jefferson combined.

Plus if you want to push a certain political objective. You will need carve out enough Democrats as to not overpower a Republican candidate.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:31 am to
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2006: The Fannie Lou Hamer, Rosa Parks, and Coretta Scott King Voting Rights Act Reauthorization and Amendments Act of 2006 extended the special provisions for an additional 25 years, until 2031.


Republicans had 230 seats in the house and 55 in the senate.

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07/20/2006 Senate Passed Senate without amendment by Yea-Nay Vote. 98 - 0. Record Vote Number: 212.
07/13/2006-5:38pm House On passage Passed by recorded vote: 390 - 33 (Roll no. 374).


WTF were those RINOs doing...
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:40 am to
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WTF were those RINOs doing...


They were doing racism, imo.

Good legwork, btw!
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