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Dan Campbell: Officials said illegal motion call on Jared Goff TD catch came from New York

Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:34 pm
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27109 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:34 pm
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The trick-play fourth-down touchdown on Detroit’s opening drive in Kansas City violated the rules. There’s an unresolved question regarding how the violation was detected.

The flag wasn’t thrown immediately. From the snap (at which the violation occurred) until the flag was thrown by referee Craig Wrolstad, one minute and 15 seconds elapsed.

Wrolstad said the penalty was called “after discussion.” The circumstances — and the delay — invited speculation that Wrolstad received guidance from the league office as to the situation.

That speculation may be accurate.

Appearing Wednesday morning on 97.1 The Ticket in Detroit, Lions coach Dan Campbell said he was told that New York made the call.

That’s not what Wrolstad told pool reporter Matt Derrick after the game. Wrolstad said the call was made after discussion by the crew, with no assistance from New York.

What’s the truth? Who knows? But the broadcast showed Wrolstad speaking directly to Campbell after the penalty was announced.

In the end, they got it right. But if Campbell’s version is accurate, they did it the wrong way. In violation of clear, indisputable procedures for when the league office may assist the on-field officials.

Coupled with the fact that the final decision benefited the Chiefs — who had zero penalties called against them for the entire game — and it’s time for some to take out the tinfoil hats. Again.


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Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
45690 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:48 pm to
NFL gonna NFL
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
32431 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 2:13 pm to
feels like every trick play the Lions run, the NFL just pauses the game until they can find some obscure rule to enforce to cancel it out. Pretty impressive.
Posted by Dr Rosenrosen
Member since May 2006
3982 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 2:14 pm to
The Swifts will go deep in the playoffs again. Maybe back to the SB.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
45690 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 2:15 pm to
But no penalties on KC
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
28089 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 2:20 pm to
Yet they couldn't pick up the flag on Carl Granderson's roughing call?
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
7929 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 2:50 pm to
I believe Campbell.
Posted by TheePalmetto
Member since Aug 2025
1032 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 3:05 pm to
Had one called but the Lions declined it. Lions only had 4 called on them.
Posted by Domeskeller
Astrodome
Member since Jun 2020
9573 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 3:08 pm to
Yet people love replay review, expedited replay review, an “eye in the sky” with someone correcting officials on the spot and want more of it. All of that decreases transparency and allows the NFL more of a say in getting to a desired outcome that usually helps the business bottom line.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53389 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

Yet people love replay review, expedited replay review, an “eye in the sky” with someone correcting officials on the spot and want more of it. All of that decreases transparency and allows the NFL more of a say in getting to a desired outcome that usually helps the business bottom line.
I was told people want the right calls no matter how they get to them
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
71463 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 3:17 pm to
Sure, but call the false starts on the Eagles.

Why can’t New York call that?
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
14775 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 3:17 pm to
Watching the game it was obvious Wrolstad was communicating after the play with someone other than the other officials on the field.

The officials formed a small huddle after the play, and Wrolstad was talking with his head down. The other officials in front of him weren't saying anything and just looking around waiting on him to finish.
Posted by yaherrdme
The Place to Be
Member since Feb 2004
5871 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 3:21 pm to
quote:


NFL gonna NFL


Not all the time though.. wish they would have in the 2018 NFC Championship game when the Saints got screwed on the obvious PI
Posted by UK34
Member since May 2016
181 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 3:24 pm to
Getting corrected calls from NY is such a slippery slope. We only doing that in prime time? Every missed call?

I believe Campbell and there is no way to correct/overturn everything.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61605 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 3:26 pm to
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I was told people want the right calls no matter how they get to them



Simple people say this without consideration for what happens when someone wants to put their finger on the scale.

When the NFL can choose which plays they "get right" then the "people" aren't getting what they want.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38901 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

UTEP Study: Judges’ and referee calls favored Kansas City Chiefs from 2015-2023


Sad thing is, despite all this manipulation, the NFL is just more boring than previous Decades.

At least when the NBA $$$ STAR officiated they GREW the game with Jordan.

Who's the NFL's future? Target audience? Swifties?
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53389 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

When the NFL can choose which plays they "get right" then the "people" aren't getting what they want.


Same thing with the roboumps in baseball
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79820 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

Same thing with the roboumps in baseball


How is that the same as this in any way?
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53389 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

How is that the same as this in any way?


It’s not the actual umps making the call
Posted by SludgeFactory
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Jun 2025
2091 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 5:00 pm to
quote:

Who's the NFL's future? Target audience? Swifties?


The NFL has made it clear to everyone for the past several years that they are catering the sport to females (Swifties), foreigners (games everywhere) and progressives (field slogans, virtue signaling). It is working so far and good for them!

It is beyond hilarious reading these stories after games. Despite years and years of blatantly rigging games, you still have fans that want to believe.

It isn't hard to quit watching the NFL, and I was a huge fanboy for over 30+ years. Even went to a Super Bowl. I will never step foot in another NFL stadium again and haven't for over 15 years now.
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