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America wasn’t stolen, it was conquered

Posted on 10/13/25 at 8:58 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted by c on z
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 9:02 pm to
Sure, that clearly makes it better.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 9:03 pm to
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Sure, that clearly makes it better.


No. It makes it reality
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 9:04 pm to
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Sure, that clearly makes it better.


Why wouldn't it? Seriously.
Posted by CaneyLake
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 9:06 pm to
"every civilization in this world is built on top of the one they conquered."

Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 9:08 pm to
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The situation in most of North America was similar to northern Europe on the eve of the Germanic migrations, or western Europe as the Celts were moving across the landscape. Precisely to whom the land belonged in any given century at these periods in history was anyone’s guess. The very notion of property is a Graeco-Roman invention which most cultures found foreign until quite recently. But Europeans of the time had little chance of grasping this difference. What the Europeans did in the New World was insert themselves into a fluid power struggle which had been ongoing for millennia. Many Native American chiefs were ready to pledge allegiance to the Great ‘Chief of the English’, as a political expedient, just as various English colonies sided with this or that Native American ‘Great Chief’. Despite a few sensational cases of duplicity, most of the time, Europeans tried to buy land from Indians, just like they would buy an acre of land in England.
Posted by Swamp Frog x
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 9:08 pm to
I would argue that it was settled. The population of the US area when it was discovered by Europeans was probably no more than 3-5 million. Absolutely tiny population for such a huge piece of land. On top of that there were no developed civilizations. The Europeans probably saw a massive piece of land with a few people scattered about. There was nothing to conquer.
Posted by Lexis Dad
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 9:08 pm to
Jesus Christ
Posted by Philzilla2k
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 9:13 pm to
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by c on z
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Sure, that clearly makes it better.

Loser complaining about losing.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 9:19 pm to
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Lexis Dad

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Jesus Christ



Do you disagree?
Posted by eddieray
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 9:39 pm to
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would argue that it was settled



I’ve read where they tried to convert the native population to their religion. Was pretty insistent on it too.
Posted by Geronimo
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 9:41 pm to
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Sure, that clearly makes it better.


I've probably done more research on Native Americans than anybody you've ever met. How do you think they settled territorial disputes? Tens of millions of them inhabited North America before the first white man ever stepped foot here, they conquered each others land with force, the same as every other group of humans that ever existed. That's just the way it is, bleeding about it doesn't change a damn thing.
Posted by White Bear
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c on z


Posted by touchdownjeebus
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 10:14 pm to
Give thanks to the Italian American civil rights league for making Columbus Day a thing.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 10:17 pm to
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Sure, that clearly makes it better.


And yet you liberals never donate your property to the local tribe and never go back to Europe
Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 10:20 pm to
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Sure, that clearly makes it better.



lol fig
Posted by biglego
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Posted by Longhorn Actual
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 10:43 pm to
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I've probably done more research on Native Americans than anybody you've ever met.

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Geronimo

Checks out
Posted by Rankin_File
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 10:56 pm to
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I've probably done more research on Native Americans than anybody you've ever met. How do you think they settled territorial disputes? Tens of millions of them inhabited North America before the first white man ever stepped foot here, they conquered each others land with force, the same as every other group of humans that ever existed. That's just the way it is, bleeding about it doesn't change a damn thing.


Exactly. If zealots of the leftist faith want to cling to their 'stolen land' narrative they should at least be historically consistent with it. If all land gained via conquest is stolen than Europeans were simply stealing from other criminals. They were like Omar from The Wire.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:34 am to
I'll agree to give them Manhattan back if they will officially call themselves Indians instead of this native American crap






And bring back Indian mascots
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