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Higher administrative pay linked to lower student test scores
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:11 am
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:11 am
Watchdog report
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A recent analysis by Open the Books has revealed a concerning trend in public schools across the United States. As salaries for administrators rise, student performance on standardized tests appears to decline. The study, which examined payroll data from 12,500 school districts between 2019 and 2023, found that increased spending on administrative salaries often correlates with lower scores on the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP), a test that measures reading and math skills for fourth- and eighth-grade students.
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Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:13 am to Cell of Awareness
Exactly, bc less money for the classroom or better teachers
Typical corruption
Typical corruption
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:18 am to Cell of Awareness
EdDs are expensive
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:18 am to Cell of Awareness
Bloated administrative do nothing jobs that drive up budgets and interfere with actual teaching with social justice causes.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:20 am to Cell of Awareness
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salaries for administrators
Edit: This is NOT teacher pay, but front office administrator pay.
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O'Brien emphasized that the issue is not with teacher salaries, which are often considered underpaid, but rather with administrative pay. "What we are seeing is the administrator pay is most likely to blame for this negative correlation with student achievement," she said. The report noted a significant increase in non-teaching staff, with administrative roles growing by 41% between 2010 and 2022, compared to a 10% increase in regular school employment.
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Baltimore was cited as an example of administrative bloat, where less than half of the 13,000 employees are teachers or principals. The city has roles such as a senior executive director of equity earning over $200,000, along with ten other similar positions, which did not exist in the past.
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The study also pointed out that benefits packages, which are not included in payroll calculations, further divert resources away from students. According to a report from the Reason Foundation, per-pupil spending in the U.S. increased by 21% from 2022 to 2019, with 64% of that spending going towards benefits.
This post was edited on 10/2/25 at 9:25 am
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:21 am to Cell of Awareness
I'm all about cutting fat and creating efficiency in education system but there is correlation v. causation issue here.
They often pay administrators more to take worse jobs (i.e. bad schools in bad neighborhoods with bad parents) and those schools have worse test scores.
They often pay administrators more to take worse jobs (i.e. bad schools in bad neighborhoods with bad parents) and those schools have worse test scores.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:21 am to Cell of Awareness
I swear, in my poor southern county, the public school system has become backdoor reparations and its not even a secret.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:23 am to Cell of Awareness
It could also be that nobody wants to be principal at a failing school full of terrible kids so you have to offer more pay to get anyone to put up with that crap 
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:24 am to Tangineck
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Bloated administrative do nothing jobs that drive up budgets and interfere with actual teaching with social justice causes.
"iTs fOr tHe cHiLdReN!!!!!1!!"
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:27 am to Huey Lewis
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It could also be that nobody wants to be principal at a failing school full of terrible kids so you have to offer more pay to get anyone to put up with that crap
The elementary school I went to had a principal and vice principal when I was growing up. Now there’s 2 principals and 2 or 3 vice principals. It’s k-5 and about 40 kids in each grade. There’s 5 administrators for like 240 kids. That’s insane and totally unnecessary
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:27 am to Turnblad85
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I swear, in my poor southern county, the public school system has become backdoor reparations and its not even a secret.
Seeing the same in Louisiana. School administration from primary through high school has become significantly blacker, more democratic, and more LBGT.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:28 am to Huey Lewis
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It could also be that nobody wants to be principal at a failing school full of terrible kids so you have to offer more pay to get anyone to put up with that crap
Scores went down AFTER administrative salaries went up.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:35 am to Cell of Awareness
The education of this country need 100% overhaul. There are way too many administrative positions and not enough help in classrooms. 75% of all admin positions need to go away and schools need to do better with the money they have and stop raising taxes for no benefit.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:45 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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The elementary school I went to had a principal and vice principal when I was growing up. Now there’s 2 principals and 2 or 3 vice principals. It’s k-5 and about 40 kids in each grade. There’s 5 administrators for like 240 kids. That’s insane and totally unnecessary
I was coming to say my high school went from one principal to 4 while I was there.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:57 am to Shexter
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senior executive director of equity earning over $200,000
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:59 am to Cell of Awareness
Administrators work for administrators, not the students.
The government administrators work for other administrators not for the people.
Teachers unions work for the teachers at the expense of the students.
The government administrators work for other administrators not for the people.
Teachers unions work for the teachers at the expense of the students.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:00 am to Cell of Awareness
Wokism is action. (They call it praxis)
The know-nothing radicals think they are enlightened with special social justice language and ideas. They are typically quite narcissistic or even anti-social.
Their virtue signaling words have put them into power, but they aren’t motivated by anything but power.
They see no contradiction in this data. They would likely say that the testing system is racist.
The know-nothing radicals think they are enlightened with special social justice language and ideas. They are typically quite narcissistic or even anti-social.
Their virtue signaling words have put them into power, but they aren’t motivated by anything but power.
They see no contradiction in this data. They would likely say that the testing system is racist.
This post was edited on 10/2/25 at 10:02 am
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:01 am to Cell of Awareness
You mean putting money into admin pockets instead of paying teachers more and putting that money in the physical classroom doesn't help raise test scores?
Well, shocker.
Well, shocker.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:02 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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The elementary school I went to had a principal and vice principal when I was growing up. Now there’s 2 principals and 2 or 3 vice principals. It’s k-5 and about 40 kids in each grade. There’s 5 administrators for like 240 kids. That’s insane and totally unnecessary
You see this in EBR because every damn school has a magnet program and possibly others. Each program requires an admin.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:09 am to Cell of Awareness
LINK to the story released by the authors of the report.
Better info there. This chart was interesting. Good money in being a charter school superintendent in Texas. Also, 556k for elementary homeroom teacher 
Better info there. This chart was interesting. Good money in being a charter school superintendent in Texas. Also, 556k for elementary homeroom teacher
This post was edited on 10/2/25 at 10:11 am
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