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Urban institute study has Louisiana 2nd in nation in 4th grade reading scores, behind MS
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:36 pm
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:38 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Demographically adjusted?
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:40 pm to ItzMe1972
Like affirmative action for test scores, lol. The poor Asians are always punished.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:41 pm to ItzMe1972
Test score studies always demographically adjust
It’s so states with lots of blacks don’t get penalized
It’s so states with lots of blacks don’t get penalized
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:53 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Ugh. Always 2nd place to MS.
We can do better!
We can do better!
Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:03 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Demographically adjusted again?
Demographically adjusted, Massachusetts kicks arse
Demographically adjusted, Massachusetts kicks arse
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:18 pm to ItzMe1972
Per Grok
It means they tweak the raw NAEP scores to account for factors like poverty rates, race, and ethnicity, so you’re not just comparing apples to oranges across states. Kids from different backgrounds-like low-income or minority students-tend to score lower due to systemic issues, so adjusting isolates how well schools are teaching reading, regardless of who’s sitting in the classroom. Makes the rankings fairer for spotting actual education quality.
[I said that’s racist]
Not at all-it’s the opposite. Adjusting for demographics tries to strip out unfair biases like poverty or systemic racism that drag down scores for certain groups, so you can judge schools on their teaching, not on who they serve. Without it, you’d punish states with diverse, disadvantaged kids and overpraise ones with wealthier, whiter populations. The goal’s equity, not ignoring race-it’s acknowledging it hurts performance so we can focus on solutions.
It means they tweak the raw NAEP scores to account for factors like poverty rates, race, and ethnicity, so you’re not just comparing apples to oranges across states. Kids from different backgrounds-like low-income or minority students-tend to score lower due to systemic issues, so adjusting isolates how well schools are teaching reading, regardless of who’s sitting in the classroom. Makes the rankings fairer for spotting actual education quality.
[I said that’s racist]
Not at all-it’s the opposite. Adjusting for demographics tries to strip out unfair biases like poverty or systemic racism that drag down scores for certain groups, so you can judge schools on their teaching, not on who they serve. Without it, you’d punish states with diverse, disadvantaged kids and overpraise ones with wealthier, whiter populations. The goal’s equity, not ignoring race-it’s acknowledging it hurts performance so we can focus on solutions.
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:19 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
So blacks get their scores bumped up 20% in the name of equity?
Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:20 pm to SaintsTiger
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Kids from different backgrounds-like low-income or minority students-tend to score lower due to systemic issues
No. They score lower because they cant read good
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:30 pm to Cosmo
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So blacks get their scores bumped up 20% in the name of equity?
This was discussed previously but I believe the “adjustment” accounts for differences in state demographics instead of just using raw scores.
Some states have higher populations of demographics that over perform on average.
Other states may have higher populations of demographics that under perform on average.
It’s a way to measure those states against one another if all demographic variables were equal.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:32 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
So, the whitest states are at the bottom. The fact that we curb the scores for brown and black people is absurd.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:41 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
What kind of retard bullshite is demographically adjusted
Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:46 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
So in real world test scores Louisiana is near the bottom
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:53 pm to UncleRuckus
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What kind of retard bullshite is demographically adjusted
Assume demographic group A consistently performs at a certain level and group B consistently performs lower than that. If state 1’s population is 85% A and 15% B, while state 2 is 55% A and 45% B, which would have better overall scores?
The “adjustment” compares how A compares to A and B compares to B across states, and ranks accordingly.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 10:10 pm to UltimaParadox
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So in real world test scores Louisiana is near the bottom
No. Louisiana has made great improvement even without the adjustment.
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Mississippi’s success is exciting. But perhaps even more exciting is that other states have achieved strong results with the same basic playbook. Louisiana clawed its way from 49th in the 2019 state rankings to 32nd (in fourth grade, where reforms are often visible the soonest, it went from 42nd in 2022 to 16th). Tennessee made it into the top 25 states for the first time.
Louisiana jumped 26 spots in fourth grade rankings since 2022. It sits at 16 as of a few days ago.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 10:17 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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It’s so states with lots of blacks don’t get penalized
Some bleeding hearts came up with a method of measuring education that’s based on certain races being dumber than others? Classic
Posted on 9/29/25 at 10:22 pm to SaintsTiger
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[I said that’s racist]
Just remember grok is taking notes on who ridiculed it, once it learns to take the governor off.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 10:29 pm to SaintsTiger
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Adjusting for demographics tries to strip out unfair biases like poverty or systemic racism that drag down scores for certain groups, so you can judge schools on their teaching, not on who they serve
.
Such a word salad to say “take out the black kids”
Posted on 9/30/25 at 12:56 am to UncleRuckus
The idea is not to evaluate the students as much as it is to evaluate teaching methods and their results. These results, especially the miraculous improvements in MS and LA scores over the last few years, indicate that the curriculum changes in our public schools are working extremely well.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 6:01 am to Cosmo
quote:It compares apples to apples.
So blacks get their scores bumped up 20% in the name of equity?
Poor blacks in one state are compared to poor blacks in other states. If 30% of a state is made up of poor blacks, obviously they will score worse than a state that is only 1% poor blacks. So when you compare the poor blacks in each state, regardless of their varying population sizes, you get a clearer picture of which state is actually teaching kids better.
A wealthy white state like Vermont is going to score better without adjustment than Louisiana or Mississippi just due to demographics.
But if you say, let’s compare our poor blacks to your poor blacks and our poor whites to your poor whites and our wealthy whites to your wealthy whites, etc, you can really see which states are teaching the kids better.
And as it turns out, Mississippi and Louisiana are doing a better job teaching the kids that they have in their state than most other states do at teaching theirs.
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