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If you look at Saints as a WHOLE and it’s Needs ; Rattler is NOT the MAIN Problem.
Posted on 9/28/25 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 9/28/25 at 7:10 pm
I’ll give him props…..He has looked better than I initially thought he would.
Is he a franchise QB …..Hell No !!
But there are other PRESSING positions of need to address.
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Posted on 9/28/25 at 7:16 pm to TigerSaurus
He’s not the answer but he’s not the problem. I agree, i had a low bar for him this year and he’s been decent. Not great but decent.
That said, I would like to see the rookie. If you know that Rattler isn’t the answer then why not try the rook? He probably isn’t the answer either but I’d rather see it for myself and find out.
That said, I would like to see the rookie. If you know that Rattler isn’t the answer then why not try the rook? He probably isn’t the answer either but I’d rather see it for myself and find out.
Posted on 9/28/25 at 7:22 pm to TigerSaurus
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I’ll give him props…..He has looked better than I initially thought he would.
Is he a franchise QB …..Hell No !!
But there are other PRESSING positions of need to address.
Who give a flying frick if he’s not the “main problem”? He’s NOT THE frickING ANSWER! It doesn’t matter that he’s not the main problem.
He is OBVIOUSLY not the QB of the future, so continuing to start him is fricking retarded. There is absolutely no reason to not give Shough the rest of the starts in order to be able to fully evaluate him and know what you have.
You already know what you have in Rattler, a solid backup and there’s nothing wrong with that.
Posted on 9/28/25 at 7:31 pm to infantry1026
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He is OBVIOUSLY not the QB of the future,
Can we judge that if he has the shittiest team there is?
Posted on 9/28/25 at 7:33 pm to TigerSaurus
A mazing
Posted on 9/28/25 at 7:38 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:
Can we judge that if he has the shittiest team there is
So you can never evaluate a QB, unless the rest of the team is good?
To answer your question, yes…..it’s obvious, to everyone that understands the game, that he is not the answer
Posted on 9/28/25 at 7:46 pm to chalmetteowl
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Can we judge that if he has the shittiest team there is?
You’re right! Screw having a QB who can escape a rush and still make the tough completions!
The Saints need a QB who just needs the right chance! A guy who can stand in a perfectly formed pocket and throw dimes to receivers who never drop passes. The Saints need a guy who is perfect for the 7 on 7 drills! That’s elite! You just can’t coach that!
Posted on 9/28/25 at 7:48 pm to infantry1026
You have seen Rattler play…..
Shough has not been playing.
We can only assume Moore has NOT seen anything of Shough that indicates he would be better than Rattler AT THIS STAGE of his development.
That doesn’t say much for Shough.
You must Question why you think Shough has not been playing over a QB that’s 0-10 as a starter.
The answers you receive.. would not be favorable to Shough.
Posted on 9/28/25 at 7:52 pm to TigerSaurus
You’re right! Screw having a QB who can escape a rush and still make the tough completions!
The Saints need a QB who just needs the right chance! A guy who can stand in a perfectly formed pocket and as long as there’s no pressure, throw dimes to receivers who never drop passes. The Saints need a guy who is perfect for the 7 on 7 drills! That’s elite! You just can’t coach that!
The Saints need a QB who just needs the right chance! A guy who can stand in a perfectly formed pocket and as long as there’s no pressure, throw dimes to receivers who never drop passes. The Saints need a guy who is perfect for the 7 on 7 drills! That’s elite! You just can’t coach that!
Posted on 9/28/25 at 8:02 pm to TigerSaurus
quote:
You have seen Rattler play…..
Shough has not been playing.
We can only assume Moore has NOT seen anything of Shough that indicates he would be better than Rattler AT THIS STAGE of his development.
That doesn’t say much for Shough.
You must Question why you think Shough has not been playing over a QB that’s 0-10 as a starter.
The answers you receive.. would not be favorable to Shough.
I agree with you that it doesn’t LOOK good, but as you said…..we’re only seeing Rattler. What we are seeing from Rattler is a VERY limited offense with a QB that can’t see open receivers past the check down. A QB, that is still having the same accuracy issues dating back to his days at Oklahoma.
The only way to know what you have in Shough is to play him. Moore’s biggest reason for wanting Shough, was that he’s been through a lot of adversity and always answered it. So unless Moore was lying……he shouldn’t need to coddle him.
Posted on 9/28/25 at 8:07 pm to TigerSaurus
he's definitely playing better with more starters in the lineup unlike last season.
I would say he's being coached way better than he was last year.
of course, he's still yet to win a game and that's hard to dodge but if you really know this team, it's just not that cut and dry.
Agree.
Our defense needs a lot of help.
they played better today and got 3 sacks and got an interception but still gave up 31 points. They played a top-notch team so that's to be expected. If Buffalo was actually on their game, it would have been much worse.
Need help at LB
Need help at CB
D-line has actually gotten more sacks than I expected up to this point but there will be games when they aren't a factor at all.
I would say he's being coached way better than he was last year.
of course, he's still yet to win a game and that's hard to dodge but if you really know this team, it's just not that cut and dry.
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But there are other PRESSING positions of need to address.
Agree.
Our defense needs a lot of help.
they played better today and got 3 sacks and got an interception but still gave up 31 points. They played a top-notch team so that's to be expected. If Buffalo was actually on their game, it would have been much worse.
Need help at LB
Need help at CB
D-line has actually gotten more sacks than I expected up to this point but there will be games when they aren't a factor at all.
Posted on 9/28/25 at 8:20 pm to infantry1026
I agree with your thinking…..
But yet….. Moore isn’t playing Shough.
So… what does that tell you about Shough.
He drafted Shough because, as you say, he played 6 years of college and THOUGHT he was more mature and was highly skilled.
Maybe he’s not as skilled ..,
as Moore THOUGHT ?????
All we know is Moore is not playing him when the starting QB position could be improved.
So.. again… from this limited information… what does that tell you about Shough ?
But yet….. Moore isn’t playing Shough.
So… what does that tell you about Shough.
He drafted Shough because, as you say, he played 6 years of college and THOUGHT he was more mature and was highly skilled.
Maybe he’s not as skilled ..,
as Moore THOUGHT ?????
All we know is Moore is not playing him when the starting QB position could be improved.
So.. again… from this limited information… what does that tell you about Shough ?
This post was edited on 9/28/25 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 9/28/25 at 8:38 pm to TigerSaurus
The team doesn't have any talent. And rattler is part of that equation
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 9/28/25 at 8:43 pm to Recoveringcajun
Mr Cajun,
The answer to your question is…. You need to have a Top 3 pick in the draft… have franchise QBs in the draft… then draft one.
But there’s a problem in Saintsville.
A Very Very BIG problem !
A problem you have overlooked apparently….
In a Year the Saints will/may get a Top 3-5 pick in the nfl draft :
There are NO Franchise QBs in the Draft !!
Not One !!
Yep… Not One that I have seen so far at least !!
So… what do the Saints do now ??
The Board is waiting ??
Do you want to create QB in your personal lab and deposit him at Saints training camp… cause college football is not giving you one !!
You will be married to Rattler and Shough.. for better or worse…. For THIS season and NEXT season.
I’m sorry … but that’s what it looks like…
Unless Loomis gets the itch to sign a Veteran QB to a 3 year deal for $150 million dollars and continue to Fukk Up our Salary Cap… and I wouldn’t put it past him either !!
What do you suggest the Saints do ??
I’m sure the Board is open to ALL ideas and listening intently.
The answer to your question is…. You need to have a Top 3 pick in the draft… have franchise QBs in the draft… then draft one.
But there’s a problem in Saintsville.
A Very Very BIG problem !
A problem you have overlooked apparently….
In a Year the Saints will/may get a Top 3-5 pick in the nfl draft :
There are NO Franchise QBs in the Draft !!
Not One !!
Yep… Not One that I have seen so far at least !!
So… what do the Saints do now ??
The Board is waiting ??
Do you want to create QB in your personal lab and deposit him at Saints training camp… cause college football is not giving you one !!
You will be married to Rattler and Shough.. for better or worse…. For THIS season and NEXT season.
I’m sorry … but that’s what it looks like…
Unless Loomis gets the itch to sign a Veteran QB to a 3 year deal for $150 million dollars and continue to Fukk Up our Salary Cap… and I wouldn’t put it past him either !!
What do you suggest the Saints do ??
I’m sure the Board is open to ALL ideas and listening intently.
This post was edited on 9/28/25 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 9/28/25 at 11:03 pm to TigerSaurus
Remind me what round Tom Brady was drafted in again?
Mr. Irrelevant may not have won a game yet, but what difference does it make? At 0-0, his w/l ratio is still better than Rattler’s.
Mr. Irrelevant may not have won a game yet, but what difference does it make? At 0-0, his w/l ratio is still better than Rattler’s.
This post was edited on 9/28/25 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 9/28/25 at 11:48 pm to TigerSaurus
quote:
You will be married to Rattler and Shough.. for better or worse…. For THIS season and NEXT season.
And they should be after taking Shough at 40.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 12:27 pm to Recoveringcajun
Mr Cajun,
I hear what you are saying…..
I like your positive vibe….
But the vibe is conflicting with reality.
Please remind me … How many Total QBs were taken in the HISTORY of the NFL draft in the 6th rd and became arguably the best QB in NFL History ??
You are taking a absolute and total OUTLIER in the ENTIRE History of the draft and you’re thinking ….
Oh yeah… this is commonplace stuff …
Oh yeah….it will definitely happen again…. and of all 32 teams in the nfl that could be struck by this 1 in a million thunderbolt….it will happen to the Saints. :)
Again, like your positive attitude but I think we should be a little more reality based in our thinking.
If you want to drop the name of the QB you think the Saints should draft after round 5 in the 2026 Draft that will become a Hall of Fame QB (like Tom Brady) ……
Please take this opportunity to identify him so we can besiege Loomis with emails and let him know.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 12:51 pm to Townedrunkard
Drunkard….
I agree …
if you draft a QB in the 2nd rd of the draft then this player should be the future of your team.
But…. Houston we have a Problem !!
I don’t think Shough’s talent and productivity matches the draft position.
Honestly, I think he represents another botched Saints draft pick.
Again… he’s Moore’s guy but Moore is not playing him when an upgrade at QB is desperately needed.
Why do you think that is occurring ??
I don’t think he’s what Moore envisioned or hoped he would be as a QB.
Time will tell but right now….
Moore ( his biggest fan) is Not putting him on the field.
Again, Why ???
I agree …
if you draft a QB in the 2nd rd of the draft then this player should be the future of your team.
But…. Houston we have a Problem !!
I don’t think Shough’s talent and productivity matches the draft position.
Honestly, I think he represents another botched Saints draft pick.
Again… he’s Moore’s guy but Moore is not playing him when an upgrade at QB is desperately needed.
Why do you think that is occurring ??
I don’t think he’s what Moore envisioned or hoped he would be as a QB.
Time will tell but right now….
Moore ( his biggest fan) is Not putting him on the field.
Again, Why ???
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:01 pm to TigerSaurus
quote:
If you want to drop the name of the QB you think the Saints should draft after round 5 in the 2026 Draft that will become a Hall of Fame QB (like Tom Brady) …… Please take this opportunity to identify him so we can besiege Loomis with emails and let him know.
You aren’t framing this correctly.
The issue isn’t “who is on the market who would do better?”
The issue isn’t “who is available right now now who has a better record than 0-10 as the Saints QB1?”
I have no idea if Slough is the answer. Nobody knows.
But after 10 starts, Rattler has repeatedly demonstrated that he is most definitely NOT the answer. Start Slough, pull Aaron Brooks out of retirement, start a male Saints cheerleader…hell start a female Saints cheerleader.Start Gayle Benson. Put Taysom Hill in a wheelchair and start him. The uniform obsessed weirdos on this forum can circle jerk over the color combo of the wheelchair.
But don’t start Rattler and expect different results. Rattler’s era has come and gone.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:13 pm to Recoveringcajun
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