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Trump has officially petitioned the SCOTUS to allow him to END birthright citizenship

Posted on 9/27/25 at 9:18 am
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Posted on 9/27/25 at 9:18 am
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 9/27/25 at 9:50 am to
Posted by hogcard1964
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Posted on 9/27/25 at 9:58 am to
Good move by the Don.

6-3 incoming. Well with Roberts it may be 5-4.
Posted by TygerTyger
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Posted on 9/27/25 at 10:00 am to
I fricking voted for this
Posted by 14&Counting
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Posted on 9/27/25 at 10:14 am to
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6-3 incoming. Well with Roberts it may be 5-4.


Can't wait to read the dissent from Justice Wise Latina and Justice DEI.
Posted by Yaboylsu63
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 9/27/25 at 10:15 am to
This will be so fricking huge if this happens.

I get irrationally mad when I hear an illegal popping out a kid that’s now a “citizen” and gets full benefits of the US.

We cannot do that anywhere else in the world.
Posted by Passing Wind
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Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 9/27/25 at 10:18 am to
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How stupid are you?
Extremely

It’s an alter too
This post was edited on 9/27/25 at 10:19 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/27/25 at 10:19 am to
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we all agree. You are

Uh, no.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/27/25 at 10:20 am to
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The key term being here "legally". Our founders were a moral group with little foresight of how immoral many Americans and people in general would become.


What do our founders have to do with the 14th Amendment?
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 9/27/25 at 10:32 am to
Trump is 100% correct. Anyone who disagrees is a fricking retard.
Posted by Robin Masters
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Posted on 9/27/25 at 10:35 am to
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Trump is 100% correct. Anyone who disagrees is a fricking retard.


Sneak across the line and shite out a US citizen!

Sounds exactly like what the founders, who only allowed white male property owners to vote, would implement.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 9/27/25 at 10:36 am to
Exactly.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
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Posted on 9/27/25 at 10:36 am to
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Anyone who disagrees is a fricking retard.


Look up

Posted by dalefla
Central FL
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Posted on 9/27/25 at 10:36 am to
Without the Constitution there is no 14th amendment you moron.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/27/25 at 10:46 am to
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Sounds exactly like what the founders, who only allowed white male property owners to vote, would implement.


What do the founders have to do with anything in this discussion?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 9/27/25 at 10:48 am to
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Without the Constitution there is no 14th amendment you moron.

A cope the level of which we have never seen before

The founders crafted the Constitution with the ability to amend it, which makes their opinions pre-Amendment worthless on the matter.

Bringing up the founders is an argument for emotional, non-intelligent/logical types. Hence why I called the X poster a retard.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 9/27/25 at 10:49 am to
Are you asserting the founding documents and ideas of the country are irrelevant to this question?
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 9/27/25 at 10:51 am to
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Can't wait to read the dissent from Justice Wise Latina and Justice DEI.


Hell, those two probably think borders are unconstitutional.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
472935 posts
Posted on 9/27/25 at 10:53 am to
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Are you asserting the founding documents and ideas of the country are irrelevant to this question?

When the sole discussion is the 14th Amendment? Yes.

Well, technically, the 14th is a part of the founding documents (as an amendment, it's still considered part of the whole), so if that's your gotcha attempt, I see it.

The 14A controlling the issue means whatever conflict(s) existing in the versions of the Constitution pre-14A (which I don't believe there are any as BRC wasn't referenced, as it couldn't jive with the legal slavery at the time) lost any relevance or authority once the 14A was passed, as it supersedes any such conflict entirely.

That's the point of the Amendment process.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11590 posts
Posted on 9/27/25 at 10:53 am to
The intent behind that section of the 14th was to address the rights of freed slaves and the children of slaves to become US citizens. The country wasn’t facing a massive illegal immigration crisis during the reconstruction period when this was voted on.

This should be addressed by the Supreme Court
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