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WSJ: Desperate for sales, Ford courts riskier borrowers to sell F-150 pickups

Posted on 9/25/25 at 2:44 pm
Posted by goofball
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 2:44 pm
Inventory levels are high, and creative financing is being used to prop up sales.

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Ford Courts Riskier Borrowers With Lower Rates for F-150 Pickups

Unusual end-of-quarter sales promotion addresses affordability for shoppers with weak credit histories

WSJ

By Ryan Felton

Ford is racing to sell more F-150 pickups this quarter by offering lower interest rates to buyers with the weakest acceptable credit histories.

The deal available until the end of the month will allow consumers with shakier credit profiles to pay the lower interest rate offered to those with stellar credit records.

Ford is courting these low-credit customers as it looks for a strong close to the quarter for its best-selling pickup, which starts around $39,000 and goes to almost $80,000. Like most automakers, Ford has been largely absorbing the costs of tariffs on imported steel, aluminum and auto parts to keep plants humming and sales volumes high, even as it cuts into profits.

“We wanted to provide the opportunity to those with credit ratings that may not be perfect the opportunity to have the best rates available,” a Ford spokesman said. The program isn’t expected to continue beyond the end of the month, the spokesman said.

Subprime borrowers—those with a FICO score below 620—are less likely to make payments on time in an economic downturn, which is why lenders normally assign higher interest rates to them. The labor market has been softening, with unemployment rising to 4.3% in August. And the percentage of borrowers with auto debt more than 90 days past due is at its highest since the peak of the Covid lockdown, according to the Consumer Federation of America.

The risks of lending to subprime car buyers has also been amplified in recent weeks, after auto lender Tricolor Holdings filed for bankruptcy following fraud allegations. Many of the more than 100,000 borrowers who received loans from Tricolor lacked a Social Security number or credit history.




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The average monthly loan payment in August approached $750, with an interest rate at 6.4%, according to estimates from industry-research firm J.D. Power. At the same time, loans with extended repayment terms of 72 and 84 months are becoming commonplace, in part to keep monthly payments manageable.


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Ford F-Series pickup sales dropped 3.4% in August from a year earlier, but they are up nearly 13% for the first eight months of the year, according to company reports. Ford doesn’t break out F-150 sales from other F-Series models, such as the larger F-250 Super Duty.


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Under Ford’s promotion, borrowers with weaker credit profiles would get the same interest rate from the automaker’s finance arm on new F-150s as someone with a top credit score, according to a Sept. 19 memo seen by The Wall Street Journal. Subprime borrowers paid an average rate of up to nearly 16% in the second quarter of 2025, compared with roughly 5% for higher-credit borrowers, according to an Experian report.

This post was edited on 9/25/25 at 2:51 pm
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 2:45 pm to
What
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Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 2:46 pm to
This will work out great. $80K vehicles and people with poor credit
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 2:47 pm to
Dealerships must be hurting. Yesterday evening I got a cold call from a salesman at a dealership where I once had some warranty work done. I didn't even buy my truck from there; just had some work done at their service department.

He asked if I wanted to trade my truck in for a new model, and that they're offering 0% interest for 72 months.
This post was edited on 9/25/25 at 2:52 pm
Posted by Traffic Circle
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 2:47 pm to
Tree-Fiddy down, Tree-Fiddy a month for Tree-Fiddy months.
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 2:47 pm to
NO repo's on the horizon.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 2:52 pm to
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they're offering 0% interest for 72 months.


Good deal until you realize that the truck is overpriced and is built for Uncle Sam's requirement and not yours, and is thus far more risky from a reliability and "costs of ownership" perspective than your old truck.

I generally like Toyota. But the new Tundra is a disaster on wheels. I didn't ask for an unreliable, high strung twin turbo V6 engine, I didn't want them to delete recovery hooks, or add an expensive hybrid motor. So many things they've added to that truck increase complexity and costs but don't add value for me.

So why bother buying one?
This post was edited on 9/25/25 at 2:57 pm
Posted by member12
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 2:59 pm to
If Ford is admitting to this, it's far worse than they say.

Expect a LOT of clapped out, poorly maintained, and under-insured F-150s to hit the market soon with as much grace as a used Nissan Altima with mismatched wheels and missing bumper covers.
Posted by Shexter
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 3:00 pm to
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This will work out great. $80K vehicles and people with poor credit


Kid at work just bought a new truck for $70k.

$1,300 a month for 72 months is the payments is what he said.

Lives in a $50k trailer in Hammond.
Posted by member12
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 3:01 pm to
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This will work out great. $80K vehicles and people with poor credit



And highly complex vehicles known for being unforgiving when it comes to deferred maintenance.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 3:02 pm to
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He asked if I wanted to trade my truck in for a new model, and that they're offering 0% interest for 72 months


You should have countered with 20k off sticker and ill pay cash
Posted by dewster
Chicago
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 3:02 pm to
The good news is that used F-150 prices are about to go down after they start the repo process.

The bad news is that a lot of them that hit the market will be totally clapped out and barely running.
Posted by frequent flyer
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 3:04 pm to
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Desperate for sales, Ford courts riskier borrowers to sell F-150 pickups


This is one hell of an economic tea leaf, and not a good one.

Or it's a sign that people are finally revolting against the massive price hikes from Detroit.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 3:04 pm to
This should end well. I mean, it worked incredibly well for home buyers in the 90’s
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 3:05 pm to
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Inventory levels are high

So why are prices still high?
Posted by Palomitz
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 3:06 pm to
Have you driven a Ford lately?
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 3:08 pm to
Repo men salivating right now.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 3:21 pm to
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So why are prices still high?


They are stashing inventory at corporate owned lots near the plant; dealers aren’t that desperate since their inventory levels aren’t as crazy. Normally they do this when prepping for a possible strike. But now they are doing this because they are struggling to sell what they are building.

Could be they build too many of trim level X when everyone wants Y. Or too many V6 models when everyone wants a V8.

But I suspect that the truck is not meeting buyer expectations set by its high price. The higher end of the market is doing well but every carmaker is aiming there right now with every car, truck, and SUV they make. Not all of them are worth it.
Posted by Crappieman
Member since Apr 2025
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 3:23 pm to
How about just lowering the selling price to where people can afford them. Sell every F-150 for less than $40,000.
This post was edited on 9/25/25 at 3:26 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 3:25 pm to
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Ford courts riskier borrowers


Already targeting oil patch thousandaires with $1500 in child support and a oxy addiction, how much riskier can they get?
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