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Arch Manning is dead last (133/133) in EPA with -35.63 or -.4 per passing play...

Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:45 pm
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
30057 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:45 pm
The Longhorns effectively lose half a point every time Arch Manning drops back

link to EPA stats

Nussmeier isn't too hot either with an EPA of -2.38 or -.02 per passing play which makes him the 89th best QB.

SEC QBs EPA (and their national ranking)

5. Joey Aguilar - Tennessee 42.81
9. Ty Simpson - Alabama 37.53
10. Beau Pribula - Mizzou 36.28
11. Taylen Green - Arkansas 36.81
14. Diego Pavia - Vandy 34.37
16. Marcel Reed - TAMU 33
32. Gunner Stockton - UGA 24.61
44. John Mateer - OU 18.4
48. Blake Shapen - Moo State 16.13
57. Austin Simmons - Ole Miss 11.77
58. Jackson Arnold - Auburn 11.58
62. LaNorris Sellers - Cocks 7.37
89. Garrett Nussmeier - LSU -2.38
119. DJ Lagway - Florida -13.67
131. Zach Calzada - Kentucky -30.4
133. Arch Manning - Texas -35.63

Posted by Lexis Dad
Member since Apr 2025
4422 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:48 pm to
quote:


Arch Manning is dead last (133/133) in EPA with
-4 per passing play




This post was edited on 9/16/25 at 8:48 pm
Posted by Jameson2954
Member since Mar 2022
801 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:53 pm to
I’m more worried about Nuss after 5 years being 89th.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84169 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:54 pm to
Some of Arch’s throws look like he has the Chuck Knoblauch yips. It’s that bad.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
15421 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:03 pm to
I think Texas will lose at Florida
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
55330 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:20 pm to
Sounds like Arch is bad for the environment
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17390 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

Some of Arch’s throws look like he has the Chuck Knoblauch yips. It’s that bad.


I read an article with some quotes from Cooper where he was basically saying that the assumption that Peyton and Eli were a big part of Arch's development were way oversold because they all lived in different states and didn't even see each other with any frequency.

I definitely believe that now because no way Peyton just lets that throwing motion slide. He would spend weeks keeping Arch up until 4 AM just out of principle if he were actually tutoring him.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
78156 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:32 pm to
He still went to the Passing Academy and has been working with Sark for years but his mechanics look like he hasn't touched a football since high school.
Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2017
2699 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 11:08 pm to
He just has the natural talent to where he could get away with the side arm flicks and not getting his feet set. Now against better competition, he’s going to need to return to the basics, be smooth and set his feet. Do the little things. The pressure that was put on that kid is somewhat unfair, though he is making millions on NIL so I suppose it goes both ways. I was just very perplexed in the offseason when they were anointing him to be the 1.01 in NFL Draft and Heisman favorite, what single thing had he proven going into this season?
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
83476 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 11:10 pm to
quote:

has been working with Sark


Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
215967 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 11:16 pm to
He played against nobody’s in HS. Class 2A is pretty low as far as talent. I know Peyton and Eli played there but maybe Arch is just all name and no game.
Posted by 1ranter1
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
10675 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 12:01 am to
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62. LaNorris Sellers - Cocks 7.37
89. Garrett Nussmeier - LSU -2.38
119. DJ Lagway - Florida -13.67
131. Zach Calzada - Kentucky -30.4
133. Arch Manning - Texas -35.63


The bottom 5 looks like a scouts preseason top 5 besides Calzada
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7657 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 12:56 am to
Nuss is injured. Arch might be too.
Posted by BornKjun
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2008
1011 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 2:42 am to
Does this stat take opponent into account?
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2017
13429 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 3:23 am to
quote:

5. Joey Aguilar - Tennessee 42.81


quote:

115. Nico Iamaleava - UCLA -12.70


Posted by uptowntiger84
uptown
Member since Jul 2011
4957 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 5:21 am to
He should have never been a 5 star. 4 star tops without the Manning last name.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
12353 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 7:45 am to
quote:

Arch is just all name and no game.

Didn’t get the QB gene like his uncles did.
Posted by Lexis Dad
Member since Apr 2025
4422 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 8:27 am to
quote:

I read an article with some quotes from Cooper where he was basically saying that the assumption that Peyton and Eli were a big part of Arch's development were way oversold because they all lived in different states and didn't even see each other with any frequency.

I definitely believe that now because no way Peyton just lets that throwing motion slide. He would spend weeks keeping Arch up until 4 AM just out of principle if he were actually tutoring him


Now would be a good time to have his uncles tutor him.
Posted by Lexis Dad
Member since Apr 2025
4422 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 8:27 am to
Aguilar is a keeper for you guys.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:38 am to
Nussmeier is going to cost that team a shot at a championship lol
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