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The Rot began with "Higher Education".

Posted on 9/15/25 at 3:17 pm
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6512 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 3:17 pm
Charlie Kirk’s story isn’t just about one man with a microphone. It shows what happens when higher education, once meant to safeguard free thought, becomes the very place where it is strangled.

The First Amendment was written with universities especially in mind. The Founders believed free citizens needed open debate, a press that argued without fear, and schools that trained minds to reason. Jefferson dreamed of a republic where even the farmer, if educated, could govern himself wisely. Madison warned that without the liberty to speak and to learn, self-government would collapse into tyranny.

On paper, those protections still stand. In practice, the square is shrinking. The loudest voices on campus don’t argue with ideas they dislike, they brand them dangerous. Administrators don’t defend debate, they protect dogma. Young people are trained not in reasoning, but in conformity.

That is the great failure of our universities. They were built to prepare citizens to test ideas and govern themselves. Instead, they have become engines of uniformity. Students leave with credentials but without the habit of reasoned disagreement. And when speech is no longer answered with speech, those marked as “enemies” stop being seen as human. Once that happens, violence isn’t a breakdown of the system, it is the system working as trained.

Kirk’s death makes this clear. His presence tested whether higher education still believed in the Founders’ promise of free speech and honest debate. The answer was no. The rot began in higher education, and it will end there ... unless we restore the vision the Founders handed us: a nation of free citizens, trained to reason, unafraid to speak.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293378 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 3:18 pm to
The Frankfurt School infesting Columbia University in the 30s was the beginning of the flood.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6512 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 3:25 pm to
Its going to be hard to fight them with their billion dollar endowments. But it's clear they dont believe in the constitution. They dont believe in Republic. They are subversive.
This post was edited on 9/15/25 at 3:27 pm
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
3973 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 6:18 pm to
I think it was Obama that took student loans away from private companies and turned it into a government operation. This was a factor too. Democrats gained more control over universities.
Posted by Fiddler crab
South in winter North in summer
Member since Jul 2024
149 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 11:13 pm to
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The Frankfurt School infesting Columbia University in the 30s was the beginning of the flood.

Although it’s tempting for some to blame German Jews for corrupting US higher education, I don’t believe it works in this case. The Frankfurt School favored reasoned discourse and independent thought over conformity and censorship as a result of the totalitarian takeover they witnessed. Sure, many were Marxists and their Critical Theory was in conflict with the Christian origins of American higher education. But what we’re seeing now is more a result of postmodernist faculty in the late 20th Century disavowing the Frankfurt School’s Critical Theory and creating a “critical theory” on race and gender that has more in common with the totalitarian doctrines the Frankfurt School despised than the original Critical Theory. I witnessed the origins of this movement firsthand as a doctoral student at a prominent higher education research center and it has gained traction much to the detriment of critical thinking and open discourse.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
31203 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 11:18 pm to
“Higher Learning” was made up liberal BS.


We now have opposite Remy. Fricken army of Tranny Remys.


Doped up **** losers.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
9852 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 1:57 am to
When you drive out private lendors for student loans and switch student loans to loans that are backed mostly by the federal government, allow 62% of kids go on the college from high school, yet only 20% of the degrees are STEM. Obama knew exactly what he was doing on that. Thier goal was to get colleges and universities to lower their admission standards, give endless money to many kids who should have never been there in the first place while allowing them to get less than useless degrees, and highly indoctranating them with leftist ideology. Then when they are in debt, can't find work or become underemployed with thier useless degree and can't pay thier bills what are they going to turn too? Bernie offering "democratic socialism" or some form of it or whatever the frick they wanna call it now to people who are dumb ,but think they are smart. This started long ago and was kicked into overdrive 15 years ago. You should have no more than 20% of your population going to a University. This is where we are and we need education reform in the worst way. You can easily cut 60-70% of colleges and invest in schools that teach usable skills and job training for the jobs of today. For an illustration of what is happening:


This post was edited on 9/16/25 at 2:06 am
Posted by AUJACK
Member since Sep 2020
1000 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 2:27 am to
I would agree that "higher education" is an issue but the problem starts in early education, K-12.

American parents need to understand that the public education system has been infiltrated by leftist since the beginning of the public school system starting with John Dewey.

Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22192 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 5:45 am to
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You should have no more than 20% of your population going to a University.

If someone can make more money with a degree then you will have more than 20%. Twenty percent is too low. Talk about elitism, that's what you'd get with 20%.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34065 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 5:52 am to
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Its going to be hard to fight them with their billion dollar endowments. But it's clear they dont believe in the constitution.


Not really. Take away all public funding and make them burn through those endowments.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135140 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 5:54 am to
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The Rot began with "Higher Education".
Yep.

Posted a thread on this yesterday that ended up getting buried Performative virtue-signaling has become a threat to higher ed.

The crux is, collegiates are discouraged from intellectuality and channelled into rote groupthink at a time when their brain development is primed for the former. Not only is their college development suffering as a result, so is their ability to reason and think as a lifelong skill.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
9852 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 7:04 am to
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If someone can make more money with a degree then you will have more than 20%. Twenty percent is too low. Talk about elitism, that's what you'd get with 20%.


Get out of that boomer mentality that the only way to sucess is through a college education. If you look at the video that I posted than that is a clear example of what I mean. What are you going to do with that? We have way too much uslessness in college and way too many that do not belong. It is not elitist to say that the majority of kids on campus do not belong there.
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