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Words of wisdom from Parcells
Posted on 9/15/25 at 8:08 am
Posted on 9/15/25 at 8:08 am
Rattler is 0-8 as a starter. He is what he is at this point. No reason to debate it.
"your actual achievements and results, not your intentions or perceived potential, are what truly define you."
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Posted on 9/15/25 at 8:17 am to saints5021
Payton manning started 1-8
Aikman started 0-11
I'm sure there's more good examples. I'm not saying rattler will be good or even decent, but 0-8 has no bearings on his future value imo
Aikman started 0-11
I'm sure there's more good examples. I'm not saying rattler will be good or even decent, but 0-8 has no bearings on his future value imo
Posted on 9/15/25 at 8:18 am to msstate7
Two #1 picks in the draft vs a guy picked in the 5th round. Apples and Oranges.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 8:20 am to saints5021
Right, we should expect more from a 5th rounder early.
ETA... parcells made that quote about team, not individual BTW
ETA... parcells made that quote about team, not individual BTW
This post was edited on 9/15/25 at 8:31 am
Posted on 9/15/25 at 8:23 am to saints5021
quote:
Rattler is 0-8 as a starter.
0-6 with no development, surrounded by garbage last year. 0-2 and getting better every week this year. There are 2 top drafted QBs this year that don't look as good. Caleb Williams being one. Bryce Young is another No. 1 pick. I'd take Rattler, a 5th rd pick over those two any day.
The difference is coaching. Kellen Moore knows how to develop QBs.
He's not winless this because of his play.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 8:37 am to saintsfan1977
Yes. Last year with that shite coaching staff wasn’t going to yield any wins. He looked like a different QB this game. He is improving. Again, it doesn’t mean he’s the guy, but he is looking like an NFL QB more than he did last year
Posted on 9/15/25 at 8:39 am to msstate7
And win lose record is a team stat not a QB stat. I hate when that is done. A QB can play like absolute dog shite and the TEAM still win.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 8:39 am to saints5021
21 other guys own that record too.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 8:39 am to msstate7
And win lose record is a team stat not a QB stat. I hate when that is done. A QB can play like absolute dog shite and the TEAM still win.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 8:43 am to saints5021
I don’t think anyone here is defending Rattler and saying he’s a good QB. He’s probably an above average backup at best.
What point are you trying to prove?
What point are you trying to prove?
Posted on 9/15/25 at 8:49 am to Suntiger
The most we can say about Rattler is that he has shown ability in some moments and plays. Anything further remains to be seen…
Posted on 9/15/25 at 8:54 am to saints5021
Jimmy G had one of the all time highest win percentages as a starting qb in history before he went to the raiders.
Higher than Montana and Young I believe as a 9ers qb.
Are you arguing he’s better than them based on his win record?
Higher than Montana and Young I believe as a 9ers qb.
Are you arguing he’s better than them based on his win record?
This post was edited on 9/15/25 at 8:56 am
Posted on 9/15/25 at 8:56 am to saints5021
I also have a .000 winning percentage as Saints starting QB.
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