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lets discuss the shot
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:41 am
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:41 am
Just watched an "expert" discussing the shot.
He said Charlie was under a tent, so he had to aim at his chest. He said if he wasn't under a tent, then it would of been a head shot.
He said you go back 450' from Charlie, that would of been a hard shot.
He then said someone who can make that successful shot from an elevated building a few hundred yards away, goes in undetected, and leaves undetected without a trace is a professional. Very well planned and executed.
He said Charlie was under a tent, so he had to aim at his chest. He said if he wasn't under a tent, then it would of been a head shot.
He said you go back 450' from Charlie, that would of been a hard shot.
He then said someone who can make that successful shot from an elevated building a few hundred yards away, goes in undetected, and leaves undetected without a trace is a professional. Very well planned and executed.
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:48 am to Da Sheik
Every assassination or attempt is always so full of speculation like this. People need to remember that it’s perfectly possible for some dumbass kid to have pulled this off. I’m not saying this wasn’t a professional hit, but nobody knows nothing yet so at this point it’s all speculative.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:53 am to Da Sheik
It was a stationary target with a high powered rifle
It wasn’t that difficult of a shot
It wasn’t that difficult of a shot
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:55 am to TDsngumbo
Behind the shooter's building is an open air parking lot and I-15 right behind that. Provo airport 40 minutes away. A lot of possibilities. Obviously premeditated long before yesterday.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:56 am to Bayou
No gun left behind so it had to be packed out
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:59 am to Da Sheik
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goes in undetected, and leaves undetected
Walking in and out of an open building?
Posted on 9/11/25 at 7:02 am to Bayou
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Behind the shooter's building is an open air parking lot and I-15 right behind that. Provo airport 40 minutes away. A lot of possibilities. Obviously premeditated long before yesterday.
Minor detail, but the Provo Airport is very close to campus. Like 10 minutes.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 7:03 am to Lawyered
Yes, anyone who grew up hunting in open spaces could have made that shot
Posted on 9/11/25 at 7:04 am to Da Sheik
It wasn't a pro. A pro wants to get paid. I am sure real pros would never take such a job. Too risky and too much media attention.
No this was some leftist, probably in the age range of 20-30. Maybe a tranny or one of the rainbow people. Could even be a student there.
No this was some leftist, probably in the age range of 20-30. Maybe a tranny or one of the rainbow people. Could even be a student there.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 7:07 am to armtackledawg
I'm avid deer hunter and I hear ya. I'm just passing along what an expert said.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 7:07 am to Da Sheik
As I have stated before. This is Utah. Very open country. There are numerous rifle ranges stretching out to 1000 yards there. There is a mindboggling amount of people who can make shots out to 800 yards and more there. Going into the desert just west of the Stansbury, to long range shoot, is very popular. And yes, even those of the progressive sway commonly shoot there.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 7:09 am to armtackledawg
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s the shotby armtackledawgYes, anyone who grew up hunting in open spaces could have made that shot
Bingo
The more telling question: did the shooter hit precisely where he aimed, or did he hit lucky. If the former, likely a pro shooter, but there are plenty of those who aren’t professional killers.
Far more telling at this point: a rapid plan, successful approach, successful escape, and presumably packed out weapon
I lean to amateur who got lucky so far. Pro shoots from inside a building or some other conceal, and would be suppressed and at that range subsonic.
This post was edited on 9/11/25 at 7:11 am
Posted on 9/11/25 at 7:11 am to Bayou
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Behind the shooter's building is an open air parking lot and I-15 right behind that. Provo airport 40 minutes away. A lot of possibilities. Obviously premeditated long before yesterday.
Provo’s airport is like 15 min away, but they have limited commercial service
But given that UVU’s campus is very close to the mouth of Spanish Fork Canyon- the gaeteway to Utah’s Canyon Country , it could be very easy to bug out to some very remote and austere areas quickly
Posted on 9/11/25 at 7:14 am to Bayou
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No gun left behind so it had to be packed out
This is the hard part and I'm amazed the rifle wasn't spotted by a person or camera in a college campus!
The shot was relatively easy.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 7:14 am to Lawyered
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It was a stationary target with a high powered rifle
It wasn’t that difficult of a shot
I keep seeing people say this and I think it discounts the complication of shooting a person, vs a target or a deer or whatever. I've never shot a person, so I don't really know what that's like, but I doubt very seriously it's the same as shooting a deer. People said the Butler shot wasn't a difficult shot. Sure, it might not have been a long shot, but when you factor in that you're shooting a person, the President of the United States, that has to initiate a physical response that complicates the shot. Add to that the fact that as soon as you pull the trigger (in the Butler case) your life expectancy is probably a minute or so before you're shot in the head, and this becomes something very different than shooting a deer.
Every hunter is familiar with 'buck fever' but I have to think an individual shooting another person in a public place experiences something a thousand times more intense than that. So unless you're an experienced sniper, I doubt any of these are easy shots.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 7:15 am to Da Sheik
CIA
Posted on 9/11/25 at 7:19 am to Da Sheik
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who canquote:make that successful shot from an elevated building
is a professional.
Any deer hunter could make that shot from 200 yards easily.
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goes in undetected, and leaves undetected without a trace
This might point more to a professional hit
Posted on 9/11/25 at 7:22 am to coolpapaboze
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Every hunter is familiar with 'buck fever' but I have to think an individual shooting another person in a public place experiences something a thousand times more intense than that. So unless you're an experienced sniper, I doubt any of these are easy shots.
IMO it was an intended chest shot, but due to adrenaline and not being a professional, they probably jerked the trigger and their shot drifted up. Tragically for Charlie, it became a neck shot.
Professional shooters, like those on SWAT sniper teams/military teams are trained to go for instant kill shot, generally a lights out shot. If it was a professional, I would imagine they would have made the provisions to get to the right location to have the correct angles to make a clean shot.
What happened yesterday screams to me Leftist Extremist ate up with anger and going too far. What concerns me is the old man that was arrested first acting as a distraction. That smells like coordination, not necessarily pro work, but it means you could have more coordinated hits like this elsewhere.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 7:23 am to Da Sheik
At this point it's all useless speculation being done for clicks. Not gonna know anything until after the autopsy and investigation. We don't know a single thing right now: not the weapon used, if it had optics, the experience of the shooter, the firing position, how many shooter just to name a few basic criteria
This post was edited on 9/11/25 at 7:25 am
Posted on 9/11/25 at 7:26 am to Da Sheik
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He then said someone who can make that successful shot from an elevated building a few hundred yards away, goes in undetected, and leaves undetected without a trace is a professional. Very well planned and executed.
pfft.
and from a "expert" 
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