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Microsoft orders employees back to the office

Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:06 pm
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
9452 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:06 pm
Employees will have to spend at least 3 days in the office per week starting in February. That's still hybrid-ish, but it’s pretty clear that the dream of many for a revolution in working culture is pretty much done. Traditional office culture has reasserted itself. I expect that MS and other companies will soon be back to an all-week policy, allowing remote work only under limited circumstances.

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The company is sending emails to employees who live within 50 miles of a Microsoft office around Puget Sound about the shift, the company said. "As we build the AI products that will define this era, we need the kind of energy and momentum that comes from smart people working side by side, solving challenging problems together," Amy Coleman, Microsoft's human resources chief, said in a memo posted on the company's website. Microsoft previously had a policy, dating back to the Covid-19 pandemic, that allowed most employees to work from home half the time without manager approval. Microsoft has held several rounds of layoffs this year, but Coleman wrote that "this update is not about reducing headcount," and instead is "about working together in a way that enables us to meet our customers' needs." In its latest earnings report in July, Microsoft reported better-than-expected results, briefly lifting the company's market cap past $4 trillion.


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Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
75977 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:07 pm to
Sounds like a good way to downsize without laying people off.

The good employees will still get fully remote work.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19240 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:09 pm to
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but Coleman wrote that "this update is not about reducing headcount," and instead is "about working together in a way that enables us to meet our customers' needs."


Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40121 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:10 pm to
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but Coleman wrote that "this update is not about reducing headcount,"


Does anyone actually believe that??
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 2:11 pm
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
1649 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:11 pm to
It’s so funny seeing all of these professional managerial class elites figuring out what your average baw in Rapides Parish knew by mid-April 2020 at the latest.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35794 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:11 pm to
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Does anyone actually believe that??


Of course not. Anytime a statement like this is made, you just assume the opposite is true
Posted by NukemVol
Member since Jan 2010
1693 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:12 pm to
Remote workers unite to support remote work at 3pm on a workday!
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
75977 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:13 pm to
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Anytime a statement like this is made, you just assume the opposite is true


"We do this to lower headcount"

"What do we say when they accuse us of doing this to lower headcount?"

"We tell the 'We aren't doing this to lower headcount'"

"Well that should work"
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:13 pm to
The problem with remote work is that it’s nearly impossible to train entry level employees either because entry level employees are remote or the experienced mentors are remote.

Also, most people aren’t great employees who can work efficiently without supervision.

Of course there exceptions, like all the hardworking remote employees on the OT that will be posting in this thread at 2PM on a Tuesday about how they get more done remotely than they ever could at the office. Why go to the break room to frick off and gossip when you can do it in your pajamas on TD?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:14 pm to
Been a tough year for the tech sector in the PacNW. Jobs dying off left and right, now they gotta go back in the office.



Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
2521 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:15 pm to
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who live within 50 miles of a Microsoft office around Puget Sound about the shift


They'll still have a massive remote workforce. I suppose they're tired of their massive Redmond campus being empty.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
24619 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:15 pm to
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The company is sending emails to employees who live within 50 miles of a Microsoft office around Puget Sound about the shif

What about those over 50 miles away?
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6875 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:15 pm to
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"about working together in a way that enables us to meet our customers' needs."


This is nothing but a hollow cliche C suite line. We are back to hybrid, and I prefer work from home. When I'm in the office, I don't do anything different or have access to anything different than I do at home. No face to face meetings, spend more time with people stopping by. But I don't mind, I'm less productive in the office and it sounds like that's what they want.

I do believe there are employees that abuse WFH. I personally know of one of our developers that has another job and he's just bouncing between jobs all day. Other IT staff just was never available when you called and they were "working" from home. I'm not unrealistic about the nature of it, but HR and C suiters want to have a blanket policy for all employees when some are just as efficient or better from home. And they're not at all honest about that.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
75977 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:16 pm to
shite workers are shite workers at home or at work.

If you have to lord over your employee you are shite at managing or shite at hiring.

Make sure their workload is known, follow through with verifying their workload is being done. Not that hard.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:16 pm to
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shite workers are shite workers at home or at work. If you have to lord over your employee you are shite at managing or shite at hiring. Make sure their workload is known, follow through with verifying their workload is being done. Not that hard.


You didn’t really address my post
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
75977 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:18 pm to
If you have a roll that require hands on OJT then doubtful you can do it fully remote. Even for a new hire.

It is either a problem with the hire or a problem with the instruction.
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 2:19 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35794 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

This is nothing but a hollow cliche C suite line. We are back to hybrid, and I prefer work from home. When I'm in the office, I don't do anything different or have access to anything different than I do at home. No face to face meetings, spend more time with people stopping by. But I don't mind, I'm less productive in the office and it sounds like that's what they want.

I do believe there are employees that abuse WFH. I personally know of one of our developers that has another job and he's just bouncing between jobs all day. Other IT staff just was never available when you called and they were "working" from home. I'm not unrealistic about the nature of it, but HR and C suiters want to have a blanket policy for all employees when some are just as efficient or better from home. And they're not at all honest about that
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CEO’s have been “working from home” as they take their private jets to aspen or Hawaii or wherever forever

They’re the boss, they get to make the rules and that’s fine. But nothing pisses me off when somebody pisses on me and tells me it’s raining while being a total hypocrite

Starbucks CEO lives in fricking Orange County and jet sets back in forth to Seattle on the company dime all the time
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 2:21 pm
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
11517 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:20 pm to
And half of them will be given the ability to come and go as they please, 1-2 days per week.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

If you have a roll that require hands on OJT then doubtful you can do it fully remote. Even for a new hire. It is either a problem with the hire or a problem with the instruction.


In an ideal world companies would never hire employees that need their hands held. But that’s just not reality. Every company, big and small has to put butts in seats, whether that seat be in the office or at your home. So unfortunately for even good employees that could work remotely it’s going to require you going back to the office to hold hands or mentor new hires.

Situations and industries vary of course but it appears that the powers that be in many companies are shifting away from remote.


I have no skin in this game. Don’t care either way other than I find it fascinating who devoutly WFHs will defend their position that remote work is the best and only way.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
75977 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:31 pm to
If the motives were honest then I'd believe the employer. They have no issue with employees working outside of business hours or working on a plane while traveling, fo some reason those times are well accepted.

I don't believe it is a generational issue either, just shitty management techniques. People who need something to put on their yearly review as win for the company. Doesn't really matter if it translates as successful.
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