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Rate cut time!!!

Posted on 9/5/25 at 7:38 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73007 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 7:38 am
August payrolls come in at +22k.

There is absolutely zero justification at this point not to cut rates.

You have a dual mandate of labor and inflation. The former is deteriorating while the latter is either flat or maybe rising a little. The cooling labor market *itself* is going to be a deflationary force anyway.

Make the call Jerome
This post was edited on 9/5/25 at 7:43 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92735 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 7:44 am to
As predicted

Too Late is such a clown and should resign let Walller take over
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
5552 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 7:45 am to
Randomw question...if/when rate cut is announced, how long before it actually is cut in the system?? And then how long does it take to see the lower rate in mortgages, credit cards, etc?

And do banks rates start to go down just as quickly?
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55371 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 7:45 am to
He is late. As always
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71487 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 7:52 am to
quote:

Randomw question...if/when rate cut is announced, how long before it actually is cut in the system?? And then how long does it take to see the lower rate in mortgages, credit cards, etc?



Savings accounts rates will be cut day of or day after pretty much. Everything else (for borrowing) will take a while to adjust after

Banks always gotta get what they can
Posted by volinktown
Member since Apr 2017
959 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 7:58 am to
Mr. TooLate

I don't know it's whether he is dumb or he lacks common sense.
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
4220 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:06 am to
quote:

I don't know it's whether he is dumb or he lacks common sense.
I think he let his emotions cloud his thoughts. Trump would have done better to express his thoughts privately to him and not threaten his job.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73007 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:10 am to
This is stunning

The UE rate for black men is only 4.1%, but the UE rate for blacks overall is 7.1%.

This suggests black women have a high UE rate right now. This is due to the fact that *60%* of black women with degrees work for the govt.

Federal layoffs are disproportionately “hurting” black women.

Seems obvious at this point that federal employment was a patronage system to provide white collar jobs to preferred groups
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
35327 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:10 am to
Aside from Trump’s traditional hyperbole, he’s going to be seen as the one who was right in this whole debacle. Powell could have hedged by cutting last meeting but now he has to wear it.
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
4220 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:24 am to
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This is stunning
This had been my feeling for a long time. It seemed obvious that many civil service jobs were DEI. You can argue if it was just due to more interest by blacks or if something else was going on.
Posted by Naked Bootleg
Premium Plus® Member
Member since Jul 2021
3140 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:27 am to
quote:

Seems obvious at this point that federal employment was a patronage system to provide white collar jobs to preferred groups


I had to call the IRS twice in 2023. Both times I got completely useless diversity hires.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73007 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:55 am to
One interesting thing is that wage growth continues to be fairly robust.

One would think we should start seeing cooling wages as this becomes an employers’ market
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
52919 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:09 am to
That jobs report was worse that it appears on the surface. The economy lost 357,000 full time jobs in August. All of the gains were part-time jobs.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133426 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:17 am to
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As predicted


EDIT: You predicted a rate cut in January, February, March, April, May, June, July & August.

Eventually you'll be correct.

Congratulations!
This post was edited on 9/5/25 at 10:05 am
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
35436 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:18 am to
quote:

There is absolutely zero justification at this point not to cut rates.


I’m 99% sure there will be a rate cut in September.

But, if you are being objective and step back, the private sector did grow by 38K jobs and the federal government lost 15K jobs.

Inflation is still 2.7% which is still high and lowering rates will likely push up inflation again.

Not saying it won’t happen. Not saying I’m for or against. I’m just saying there will be consequences either way and it’s not as clear cut as you state.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57716 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:19 am to
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The cooling labor market *itself* is going to be a deflationary force anyway.


Eventually, yes. You have to get there first though, otherwise you just jump inflation right back up.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
45964 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:41 am to
It's funny seeing the cult in this thread like a bunch of NPCs.

I'm not sure the last time y'all had an original thought. All y'all do is parrot the same dumb shite y'all's dear leader says.
This post was edited on 9/5/25 at 9:42 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73007 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:45 am to
Annndddd…….the 10am et algorithm rears its head once again

quote:

@stockwizhistory
stockwizhistory

Stocks have dropped at 10am during *95%* of trading sessions this year. Nobody as of today has identified the algorithm or entity behind this pattern. The pattern is known as the “10 am slam” in investment circles. The pattern began on March 25, 2025.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
18948 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:46 am to
This is where shite talking Powell in public may not have been the best strategy as I’m sure he has an enormous ego and has been holding out some due to spite. I think those conversations would have been best had in private.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73007 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:47 am to
I didn’t say anything about trump in the OP? I literally just made a very reasonable point that the cracking labor market will force the fed’s hand.
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