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I have changed my mind on Les

Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:37 am

Posted by JimTiger72

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Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:37 am

Put him in the HOF

Regardless of the vacated wins at LSU, it’s his 3-18 record at KU that was keeping him below the .600 win % threshold & now that’s been lowered to .595% for Mike Leach.

I haven’t seen any public information about his health, but I’m not so sure there isn’t something going on with him based on recent photos. He (71) seems to be aging a lot quicker than other guys older than him (Pete Carroll, Belichick, & Saban are all still pretty active at 73). I don’t mean to speculate, but if he is dealing with something like Alzheimer’s or similar - it’s possible that began affecting him in his 60s. He was 62 when he got fired at LSU & coached at KU till he was 67.

At the top of his game, he was great for college football & kept LSU in the conversation every year. Outside of 2019, it feels like we are finally getting back to the level of consistency that Les had us at pre-2014.

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Posted by tigerbait1.6

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Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:39 am to JimTiger72

I truly believe if he changed with the times on offense he would still be here

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Posted by herecomethetigers02

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Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:39 am to JimTiger72

you're biased if you think Les was any better than Jumbo Fisher

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Posted by JimTiger72

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Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:43 am to herecomethetigers02

Jimbo should be in the HOF too. Not very many “eligible” National Championship winning coaches get left out

Also 145 wins > 128 wins

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Posted by jbraua

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Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:53 am to herecomethetigers02

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you're biased if you think Les was any better than Jumbo Fisher

Les was Miles ahead of Jimbo—pardon the pun.

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Posted by pbro62

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Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:59 am to JimTiger72

No one gives a shite about your shitty opinions.

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Posted by coolpapaboze

Parts Unknown

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Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:00 am to JimTiger72

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I haven’t seen any public information about his health, but I’m not so sure there isn’t something going on with him based on recent photos.

He looks like a corpse in the recent photos from his daughter's wedding, just really unhealthy. That look might partially be explained by his insistence on coloring his hair, which just looks bizarre. Regardless, I hope the guy is ok.

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Posted by PrideofTheSEC

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Member since Apr 2012

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Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:03 am to JimTiger72

Les Miles looks incredible compared to Deboer as far as following up Nick Saban goes. Not an easy job to follow up as we can see now.

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Posted by Ping Pong

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Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:07 am to tigerbait1.6

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I truly believe if he changed with the times on offense he would still be here

Sometimes I miss his Power I formation when we struggle on 3rd and 1. Then I remember Lee, Jefferson, Harris, Jennings, and Etling struggling to complete a pass for more than 4 yards. No desire to go back to those dark days.

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Posted by RB10

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Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:08 am to JimTiger72

Les deserves better than he gets from LSU fans, but the game started to pass him by after 2012.

He was never going to adjust to the offensive explosion that was overtaking CFB.

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Posted by JimTiger72

LA

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Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:19 am to pbro62

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Posted by JimTiger72

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Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:20 am to RB10

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Les deserves better than he gets from LSU fans

I hope they bring him back in 2027 for 20 year celebration of 07 championship.

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Posted by geauxpurple

New Orleans

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Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:33 am to tigerbait1.6

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I truly believe if he changed with the times on offense he would still be here.

He is in poor health now, but he would have continued on for several more years.
You could say the same thing about Charley Mac. He knew his defense but had no imagination on offense.
Ditto with JimMora who was too stubborn to replace Carl Smith with a top notch OC.

Miles and Mora were both hard headed and stubborn. Mac just refused to change with the times.

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Posted by BastropRam13

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Member since Oct 2018

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Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:35 am to JimTiger72

Strongly disagree!! Miles doesn’t belong in the HOF.

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Posted by Y.A. Tittle

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Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:41 am to geauxpurple

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He is in poor health now, but he would have continued on for several more years.

We probably cut bait with him about three years too late. He did some shitty things to the whole athletic program during that period.

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Posted by Bloodworth

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Member since Oct 2007

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Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:42 am to geauxpurple

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Miles and Mora were both hard headed and stubborn. Mac just refused to change with the times.

Not stubborn ... STUPID!

He was in over his head and incapable of making decisions regarding changing things up.

Amazing talent and descent assistant coaches got him a lot of wins.

It drives me nuts that people want to say he was stubborn.

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Posted by TrueTiger

Chicken's most valuable

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Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:45 am to JimTiger72

One of the most colorful characters in SEC coaching. Spurrier, Les, The Pirate, Lane, Coach O.

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Posted by mightdeletelater

Member since Feb 2024

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Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:36 pm to Bloodworth

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Amazing talent and descent assistant coaches got him a lot of wins

Which was assembled by... checks notes... Les Miles

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Posted by JimTiger72

LA

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Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:37 pm to TNTigerman

JoePa & Urban are in it & they are bigger POS

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Posted by thelawnwranglers

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Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:44 pm to RB10

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Les deserves better than he gets from LSU fans, but the game started to pass him by after 2012.

Why does he deserve better?

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