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Sec of Commerce, Howard Lutnick pushes for USA ownership in funded patents.

Posted on 8/26/25 at 6:03 pm
Posted by AncientTiger
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 6:03 pm
Posted by Tigers0891
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 6:07 pm to
If government researchers were on the project as well as university researchers and the Feds bankrolled a majority of this same specific project, I don’t see any problems. So naturally, Trump is stealing all the knowledge and is bad. Bad bad.
Posted by Free888
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 6:11 pm to
In general I’m not averse to this, as universities will just pass along any royalties to commercial partners if the patent has commercial value. A couple of questions do arise.

-Since the US is part owner, does the university get a break on patent fees and/or patent maintenance costs? Co-owners often share these.
-It can get messy if a university enters into a research collaboration with a commercial entity, with all kinds of complications regarding arising IP and who owns this. Is the university given carte blanche to negotiate these rights, or will the government weigh in?
Posted by AncientTiger
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 6:17 pm to
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In general I’m not averse to this, as universities will just pass along any royalties to commercial partners if the patent has commercial value. A couple of questions do arise.


Currently, Sec Lutnick & President Trump are going after Harvard. 5,800 government funded patents producing $100 Million annually in revenue.
Posted by SaintsTiger
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 6:19 pm to
quote:

If government researchers were on the project as well as university researchers and the Feds bankrolled a majority of this same specific project, I don’t see any problems. So naturally, Trump is stealing all the knowledge and is bad. Bad bad.


1. The University researchers are government employees . They don’t get paid by the private sector


2. Many of these Universities have large endowments, a good chunk of which is funded by patent royalties. No reason why the funder of the grant shouldn’t receive a fair share of the royalties.

In fact, this aligns incentives. Will help balance the budget leading to the country being in an overall stronger position.
Posted by SaintsTiger
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 6:20 pm to
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A couple of questions do arise. -Since the US is part owner, does the university get a break on patent fees and/or patent maintenance costs? Co-owners often share these. -It can get messy if a university enters into a research collaboration with a commercial entity, with all kinds of complications regarding arising IP and who owns this. Is the university given carte blanche to negotiate these rights, or will the government weigh in?


These aren’t intractable issues. Can easily be worked out in a reasonable way.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 6:20 pm to
nice to take some of the commercial fascism we do and change it to communism

patents are property of the PEOPLE
Posted by SaintsTiger
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 6:41 pm to
These colleges and universities are like mini fiefdoms, living lush and extravagantly off the backs of hardworking students and taxpayers.

They are largely responsible for the student debt crises.

And take up heaps of room in annual state and federal budgets.

About time they give a little back.
Posted by Warboo
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 6:42 pm to
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patents are property of the PEOPLE


So the taxpayers that funded it. Yeah, you know the PEOPLE.
Posted by SaintsTiger
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 7:03 pm to
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So the taxpayers that funded it. Yeah, you know the PEOPLE.


Trump dividend checks are coming. Soverign wealth fund will be fat too.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 7:09 pm to
Every dollar of external revenue generated is one less that must be seized from the taxpayers who earned it at the point of a gun.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 7:17 pm to
Is this some kind of nationalist socialism?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
70961 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 7:17 pm to
While it doesn't play in right now with this, here is a friendly reminder that Elon Musk and other big tech giants are big time proponents of abolishing all IP laws.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 7:26 pm to
Did anyone catch how much money he said the Biden administration gave away?

It’s insane.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 7:31 pm to
Well, if we paid for the patented DNA structure of the #19 corona virus, we might as well own a piece of it.
Posted by CoonassatTEXAS
Austin, TX
Member since Nov 2005
1234 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:14 pm to
good, we also need to take ownership of people making money off our land and mineral rights.as well as bodies
why should big ag, pharmaceutical, and oil get all good at our expense???
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53512 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:28 pm to
Lutnick was totally stupefied when he was on Laura Ingraham's show after he was asked why are there 300k Chinese students being educated in US universities knowing they are taking advanced technology and science back to the CCP.....he was in complete hem haw mode.
This post was edited on 8/26/25 at 8:33 pm
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
18588 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:09 pm to
Companies that spinoff from university research groups already pay taxes to the government
This post was edited on 8/26/25 at 10:10 pm
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:43 pm to
The government already owns assets like land, buildings, weapon systems, and power supply systems.

This is just another type of asset.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
5467 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 11:02 pm to
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In general I’m not averse to this, as universities will just pass along any royalties to commercial partners if the patent has commercial value.

I've never seen this...
They always want their money...

The dastards also take patent rights from professors, researchers, PhD students and post Doc researchers.

Of course they then license it commercially... for a fee...
This post was edited on 8/26/25 at 11:05 pm
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