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Could someone with knowledge explain what exactly the star position entails?

Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:28 pm
Posted by Tigerbait8
Biloxi
Member since Aug 2012
2365 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:28 pm
As of late, the star position is becoming more and more common in modern defenses. But what exactly does this position entail? How will be more beneficial to LSU and Perkins for this role? I get that it is a position that roams the field.. but is this going to require Perkins to drop back in coverage like we’ve seen do in the past? (which is what we come to agree that he doesn’t need to do)

Just wanted more insight on this to get a better under standing of his role.
Posted by how333
Member since Dec 2020
3825 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:32 pm to
The star position, also known as the "Will" linebacker, is a hybrid linebacker-defensive back role. Formation: In a 4-3 defense, the star position replaces one of the traditional linebackers, creating a 3-3-5 formation (three linemen, three linebackers, five defensive backs).
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65675 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:33 pm to
Really just a silly name for an WSOLB. Same alignment and responsibilities just not necessarily using a true LB for the position.
Posted by iamandykeim
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
3496 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:34 pm to
It's almost just a box safety, which is essentially a guy with safety skills playing LB. Supposed to play around the LOS and move all around the field and have several different responsibilities/freedoms. If you go back and watch Major Burns last year, that's the STAR - just no where close to as good as HP7 will play the position in 2025.
This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 1:35 pm
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15760 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:34 pm to
It's essentially a LB, S, and Nickel rolled all into one, that could be asked to perform any of those rolls at any given time. For example, while Major Burns played star last year, and Harold Perkins is playing it this year, I don't think Perk will be asked to do what Burns was asked to do, to a t. They'll mix it up a bit to better take advantage of Perk as a player.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39811 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:35 pm to
Big nickel, off ball LB basically
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
11281 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

is this going to require Perkins to drop back in coverage like we’ve seen do in the past? (which is what we come to agree that he doesn’t need to do)

I don't think we've all agreed on that. We all agree he's not a MLB or a run stuffer. He gets lost in the run game and has trouble shedding blocks inside. But he's been good in coverage and good rushing the passer from the outside
Posted by pitchandcatch27
Huntsville,AL
Member since Jul 2018
3901 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:41 pm to
LB Rover,,,moves around to strong side or he can let his instincts define what he does. This is perfect for Perkins. He will be all over the field like he was when he was a Freshman. Perkins and Weeks will be an awesome pair for this defense. I think our defense will be very good this year.
This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 1:42 pm
Posted by TIGERhype
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2014
1084 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:42 pm to
Star is really for that hybrid player (like Perkins) who plays part linebacker, part defensive back usually covering slot receivers. The star plays in space, blitzes sometimes, covers tight ends or receivers, and stops the run. Perk is going to feast in this position he’s the kind of player that’ll keep offensive coordinators up at night trying to figure out how to game plan around him.
Posted by PurpleSingularity
Member since Dec 2017
2435 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:45 pm to
It’s a Drop Linebacker from Tep’s best-selling novel.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
5250 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

If you go back and watch Major Burns last year, that's the STAR - just no where close to as good as HP7 will play the position in 2025


Honey Badger played that role, as well as anyone could possibly play it, in 2011.

If you go back and watch Honey Badger highlights he was lined up all over the place in 2011. Made unbelievable plays from anywhere, and everywhere, they lined him up.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69363 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

but is this going to require Perkins to drop back in coverage like we’ve seen do in the past? (which is what we come to agree that he doesn’t need to do)

there is a flip side to this...he can come from anywhere and still spy a running qb. Some of yall think he should be rushing the passer every play but I am going to trust coaches when it comes to putting a player in position to make the most plays. If we lined him up on the weak side everytime don't you think the opposing OC would have an easier time game planning for him?
This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 1:50 pm
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
87614 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

Really just a silly name for an WSOLB. Same alignment and responsibilities just not necessarily using a true LB for the position.


yep, football is not a complex or complicated sport, but they’re always conjuring up new terms for old ones trying to make it sound like this is a dynamic, highly technical sport
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65675 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:52 pm to
Saying he’s lined up on the weak side is just a standard description of where the position is against a basic right handed formation. He can move around according to the situation.
This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 1:53 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
77958 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

Really just a silly name for an WSOLB. Same alignment and responsibilities just not necessarily using a true LB for the position.


they don’t play the same roll either

it’s probably closer to a box safety than a Will
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69363 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

Saying he’s lined up on the weak side is just a standard description of where the position is against a basic right handed formation. He can move around according to the situation.


I was only using that as an example. he can lineup anywhere
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65675 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:54 pm to
I remember 20+ years ago when Beamer had the same thing in his defense and called it another stupid name. Chavis used alot of tiny WSOLBs but he never changed their designation. It’s whatever not a big deal just kinda silly imo.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65675 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 2:00 pm to
“Box safety” isn’t a position
This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 2:04 pm
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36135 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

In a 4-3 defense, the star position replaces one of the traditional linebackers, creating a 3-3-5 formation (three linemen, three linebackers, five defensive backs).

If you are in a 4-3 defense and lose a LB, wouldn’t you then be in a 4-2-5?
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 2:37 pm to
Think Jacoby Steven's.

Wasn't a great LB, wasn't a great S, but right in between those positions is the hot spot.
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