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Why do China and US have College grads that cant find decent paying jobs?

Posted on 8/1/25 at 12:07 pm
Posted by RelicBatches86
Florida
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Posted on 8/1/25 at 12:07 pm
Why do the 2 largest economies in the world have this problem?

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Gen Z men with college degrees now have the same unemployment rate as non-grads—a sign that the higher education payoff is dead

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Last month the Anthropic’s CEO Dario Amodei made an alarming prediction: Artificial intelligence could wipe out half of entry-level white-collar jobs in the next one to five years. A look at the current job market for recent college graduates isn’t exactly reassuring.

Unemployment for degree-holders age 22 to 27 is almost 6%, the highest it’s been since the pandemic. And crucially, it’s significantly worse than the unemployment rate for all workers, which hovers around 4%. That kind of inversion has very rarely been seen over the last three decades the Federal Reserve has been tracking. But it doesn’t necessarily mean we’re at the beginning of a white-collar apocalypse.

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Gen Z’s suspicion that the job hunt is harder than ever may be true—about 58% of recent graduates are still looking for full-time work, compared to 25% of earlier graduates, like millennials, Gen Xers, and baby boomers before them. Young job-hunters are also three times less likely to have a job lined up out of school, as AI agents take over and entry-level roles are shrinking for Gen Z workers.

Gen Z is slammed for complaining about how tough it is to work five days in-office, or even get a job in the first place—but their suspicions may be true. Research has confirmed, their older millennial critics had a far easier time locking down a gig to begin with.

About 58% of students who graduated within the last year are still looking for their first job, according to a recent report from Kickresume.

Meanwhile, just 25% of graduates in previous years—such as their millennial and Gen X predecessors—struggled to land work after college.

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China's overqualified youth taking jobs as drivers, labourers and film extras

Youth unemployment had been nudging 20% before the way of measuring the figures was altered to make the situation look better. In August 2024, it was still 18.8%. The latest figure for November has come down to 16.1%.

Many university graduates who've found it hard to get work in their area of selected study are now doing jobs well below what they're qualified for, leading to criticism from family and friends.

inland China, so I think a lot of young people have to really readjust their expectations," says Professor Zhang Jun from the City University of Hong Kong.

She says many students are seeking higher degrees in order to have better prospects, but then the reality of the employment environment hits them.

"The job market has been really tough," says 29-year-old Wu Dan, who is currently a trainee in a sports injury massage clinic in Shanghai.

"For many of my master's degree classmates, it's their first time hunting for a job and very few of them have ended up landing one."

She also didn't think this was where she would end up with a finance degree from the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology.

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Apr 18, 2024 — 25% of workers between the ages of 23 and 35 were overqualified for their job in 2021, up from 21% in 2015. The problem is likely to get worse.
This post was edited on 8/1/25 at 12:08 pm
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/1/25 at 12:12 pm to
Reads like a graduate that didn't apply himself, partied through school, got out expecting one of dad's chums to hire him and he decided the whole summer internship between the junior and senior year wasn't necessary. He got out, looked around and saw no safety net. Now he cries and blames AI.
This post was edited on 8/1/25 at 12:35 pm
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 8/1/25 at 12:17 pm to
I've seen a lot of stuff on the China issue. It seems to be similar to the US. 'Ya gotta get a white collar job to make money.' But if everyone has a college degree then the market is saturated with applicants for those white collar jobs.
It reminds me of some of my classmates in college who were theater arts majors. They were gonna be Hollywood stars. Only one made it as a script writer of TV sitcoms. Today a degree in theater gets you a career at Starbucks.
This post was edited on 8/1/25 at 3:34 pm
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/1/25 at 12:40 pm to
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Today a degree in theater gets you a career at Starbucks.
Probably true for many, but if they focus on the technical side of television, filmmaking and theater, there are thousands of positions in corporate media and communications and if you ever watch the credits roll by at the end of a movie you can see name after name of people involved in the film. These jobs and also belonging to SAG can keep a person employed.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/1/25 at 12:44 pm to
You're so wrong. Try meeting and talking with a few young graduates who DID work those internships, who DID choose meaningful majors, who DID put in the sweat-equity to study and work and think, and who can't find jobs upon graduation because, these days. 'entry-level' really means 3+ years of FT experience and internships don't count.
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 8/1/25 at 12:46 pm to
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entry-level white-collar jobs in the next one to five years


What are they defining as entry-level in this context and across what fields/industries?
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:08 pm to
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Probably true for many, but if they focus on the technical side of television, filmmaking and theater, there are thousands of positions in corporate media and communications and if you ever watch the credits roll by at the end of a movie you can see name after name of people involved in the film. These jobs and also belonging to SAG can keep a person employed.

Yes, but the most rare employee is the good comedy writer. The number right now seems to be zero.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:14 pm to
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Unemployment for degree-holders age 22 to 27 is almost 6%, the highest it’s been since the pandemic. And crucially, it’s significantly worse than the unemployment rate for all workers, which hovers around 4%.
Wouldn't this have to do with how UE is counted? The large majority of grads 22 to 27 years old are trying to find jobs while a significant portion of other adults dgaf and have stopped trying and are no longer counted in the numbers.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:41 pm to
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Artificial intelligence could wipe out half of entry-level white-collar jobs in the next one to five years.

Easily.
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
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Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:47 pm to
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Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:49 pm to
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Gen Z men with college degrees now have the same unemployment rate as non-grads


Knowing a couple of Gen Z recent grads who are un/underemployed, I can assure you that some of their employment issues stem from lack of initiative and poor communication skills.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/1/25 at 2:11 pm to
What fields do these "college graduates " have degrees in???? That's the telling factor here.
Many aquire student loan debts in fields of study that will not provide employment or incomes needed for a comfortable existence.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/1/25 at 2:21 pm to
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Why do China and US have College grads that cant find decent paying jobs?
Because there isn't a big demand in the corporate business world for Art History and Sociology majors...
Posted by SantaFe
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Posted on 8/1/25 at 2:24 pm to

The US Navy has openings .
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Member since Sep 2015
1234 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 2:45 pm to
This really needs a breakdown by degree. Lumping it all together does not help draw any legitimate conclusion other than, yes, college is becoming increasingly not worth attending for a set of majors.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33768 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 2:52 pm to
I have kids in the recent post-graduate age group. I don't know a single person in their friend group - dozens of people - that weren't hired right out of college. I know that is anecdotal.

I feel these stats are skewed by people with shitty degrees, and the very real negative stereotypes of that age group. The graduates in the age group with good degrees and good interpersonal "soft" skills are bombarded with job offers.
Posted by TheWalrus
Land of the Hogs
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Posted on 8/1/25 at 2:59 pm to
I didn’t get a job in my field until I was 27 and the pay sucked
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
7644 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 3:04 pm to
For all the "learn a trade" people, 10 years from now after AGI buttfricks the job market into submission, you will see 3 times as many heating & air company truck and plumbing company trucks on the road as you see now, and they will only be able to charge half as much for their services.

There won't be a single sector out there that isn't hurt.
Posted by mttiger
Metairie
Member since Sep 2004
146 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 3:25 pm to
Too many chiefs and not enough Indians.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50652 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 7:54 pm to
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You're so wrong. Try meeting and talking with a few young graduates who DID work those internships, who DID choose meaningful majors, who DID put in the sweat-equity to study and work and think, and who can't find jobs upon graduation because, these days. 'entry-level' really means 3+ years of FT experience and internships don't count.
My experience has been different. With my daughter, who graduated from OU two years ago with a finance degree, had served an internship, landed the job with a commercial real estate firm as a financial analyst and is earning six figures at work and has a partner in a real estate investment and management company of her own with multiple properties already under their belt.
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