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Cowan, can he start
Posted on 7/8/25 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 7/8/25 at 7:53 pm
Watching a MLB pitcher throwing 77-80 change ups and curve balls.
His fastball is 92-94.
I wasn't expecting that, yet if you can locate, you can still pitch in the MLB.
ETA not saying he needs to start, just surprised to see that in the majors.
His fastball is 92-94.
I wasn't expecting that, yet if you can locate, you can still pitch in the MLB.
ETA not saying he needs to start, just surprised to see that in the majors.
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 7:55 pm to StickD
At LSU? He was a successful starter at his previous school
Posted on 7/8/25 at 7:55 pm to StickD
Cowan is crafty. Knows how to get outs, just needs to re-find his command and confidence.
I’m excited that he appears to be returning.
I’m excited that he appears to be returning.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 8:04 pm to StickD
No he would be a middle reliever if he is lucky enough to make it.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 8:09 pm to AtlantaLSUfan
I think the feeling was that, because he’s mainly a two-pitch guy, teams learned to sit on his change-up, limiting his effectiveness. If that was the case, then hopefully he’ll find a third pitch.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 8:10 pm to StickD
Can he? Well sure he can. But will he, well that, that my dear aquatince, is the question!
Posted on 7/8/25 at 8:30 pm to lsubatman1
Finally using a dictionary, bout time.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 8:50 pm to StickD
hes a guy that may actually come back next year. people hoping for frey to return are dreaming but Cowan is a guy that we have a chance to keep
Posted on 7/8/25 at 8:52 pm to TigerBait2008
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Finally using a dictionary, bout time
Still wasn’t able to spell correctly.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 8:54 pm to StickD
quote:
Watching a MLB pitcher throwing 77-80 change ups and curve balls.
His fastball is 92-94.
I wasn't expecting that, yet if you can locate, you can still pitch in the MLB.
Greg Maddux enters the conversation.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 9:02 pm to StickD
at LSU? sure
he was throwing a slider pretty well against Arkansas a good 3rd pitch would go a long way
he was throwing a slider pretty well against Arkansas a good 3rd pitch would go a long way
Posted on 7/8/25 at 9:08 pm to Eye dentist
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I think the feeling was that, because he’s mainly a two-pitch guy, teams learned to sit on his change-up, limiting his effectiveness. If that was the case, then hopefully he’ll find a third pitch.
He had a stretch where he wasn’t landing the changeup for a strike and also falling behind in counts. His stuff doesn’t play great in 2-0, 3-1 counts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 9:11 pm to StickD
Ask Arky.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 9:18 pm to StickD
What’s great about all this is you don’t have to worry about anything lol in jay we trust .
Posted on 7/8/25 at 10:02 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Greg Maddox got the benefit of a wide strike zone. Not sure how he would fair in today’s game with a lot tighter zone.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 10:34 pm to Rook624
Maddox got a g zone because he earned it. He would start the game on the corner and then gradually moved out moving the ump zone with him. That’s called pitching
Cowan can start but won’t go long in a game. Only about 4-5 inning
Cowan can start but won’t go long in a game. Only about 4-5 inning
Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:43 pm to tigerbacon
That’s also called a ball. If it’s out of the zone I don’t care how close you are it’s a ball. What you just described gives him a MASSIVE advantage over hitters. Knowing the ump will call ball 2-3 inches of the plate a strike makes you expand the zone as a hitter. Once you do that it’s pretty much game over for the hitter. The reason I actually responded is what people don’t realize is Maddux actually had a league average fastball. When you talk about him throwing 90-92, the hardest throwers were throwing about 95MPH. So correlate that to today’s game and Maddox would have to be throwing 94-95 to be where he was in the 90’s. He was a product of his time. Sure he was good, but by no means was he even in the GOAT conversation if you take away his 2-3 inches off the plate that he regularly had called strikes. ANY pitcher would drop their ERA by at least 1.50 if they got the same fortuitous calls he got!
This post was edited on 7/9/25 at 12:51 am
Posted on 7/9/25 at 5:46 am to StickD
Greg maddix threw 86mph & is in the HOF, so anyone can do it
Posted on 7/9/25 at 6:02 am to lsubatman1
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Can he? Well sure he can. But will he, well that, that my dear aquatince, is the question!
The frick is an aquatince? Stop trying to sound amusing.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 8:12 am to LSUtigerNVegas
What you are failing to enter into the equation is movement. Maddox had fantastic movement and control nibbling at the corners and yes extending the zone. Cowan can be successful in short stints but you can easily sit on a pitch and take him deep. His career will not approach Maddox’s. The movement or lack thereof of the fastball is the difference.
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