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Trump is screwing the pooch on this BBB.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 7/2/25 at 5:50 pm
Why doesn’t he just run the items in the Bill in smaller groups than one big Bill. This way we can see just who votes for and against tax payers. Just run them through one after another for a month. The ones that don’t pass shouldn’t hold them up. Put em to the side and negotiate them individually afterwards.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 5:53 pm to Simplemaaan
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Why doesn’t he just run the items in the Bill in smaller groups than one big Bill. This way we can see just who votes for and against tax payers. Just run them through one after another for a month. The ones that don’t pass shouldn’t hold them up. Put em to the side and negotiate them individually afterwards.
From what ive gathered, its because doing it in this manner would open up the filibuster
Posted on 7/2/25 at 5:54 pm to scottydoesntknow
You mean the manner in which I described?
Posted on 7/2/25 at 5:55 pm to Simplemaaan
wouldnt they then need 60 votes in the senate, which they will get on 0 items, if they did it this way?
Posted on 7/2/25 at 5:55 pm to Simplemaaan
You would need 60 votes in the Senate
This post was edited on 7/2/25 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 7/2/25 at 5:56 pm to Simplemaaan
How about these do nothing Rs just pass this fricking bill bwfore we get a massive tax hike
But they will claim tax hikes are conservative to save the debt
But they will claim tax hikes are conservative to save the debt
Posted on 7/2/25 at 5:58 pm to KingOrange
So we would see who wants to raise our taxes?
Posted on 7/2/25 at 6:00 pm to Simplemaaan
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You mean the manner in which I described?
Yes BBB is being done as budget reconciliation which only requires a majority vote. If you did line item bills they would all be filibustered to oblivion and nothing would get passed
Posted on 7/2/25 at 6:00 pm to Simplemaaan
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Why doesn’t he just run the items in the Bill in smaller groups than one big Bill. This way we can see just who votes for and against tax payers. Just run them through one after another for a month. The ones that don’t pass shouldn’t hold them up. Put em to the side and negotiate them individually afterwards.
Haven't you heard? Are you a retard?? Trump isn't a king!!! He can't dictate what you're proposing. That's up to Congress.
That responsibility falls on we the people. We need to vote for better congressional representation. Thats the fact baw....
Posted on 7/2/25 at 6:00 pm to Simplemaaan
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Why doesn’t he just run the items in the Bill in smaller groups than one big Bill.
Because that was a campaign promise and politicians are obligated to break those
Posted on 7/2/25 at 6:01 pm to Simplemaaan
We wouldn’t get the 60 votes, govt gets more of your money and Pubs will all cry and blame the Dems.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 6:04 pm to lake chuck fan
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Haven't you heard? Are you a retard?? Trump isn't a king!!! He can't dictate what you're proposing. That's up to Congress. That responsibility falls on we the people. We need to vote for better congressional representation. Thats the fact baw....
So you telling me no single line item bill has ever passed through congress.
And, as far as me being retarded, GFY.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 6:04 pm to Simplemaaan
You can do one reconciliation per fiscal year. Otherwise it needs 60 senate votes to end a debate…….
Posted on 7/2/25 at 6:05 pm to Simplemaaan
Not going to in this partisan Congress.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 6:06 pm to Simplemaaan
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Why doesn’t he just run the items in the Bill in smaller groups than one big Bill. This way we can see just who votes for and against tax payers. Just run them through one after another for a month. The ones that don’t pass shouldn’t hold them up. Put em to the side and negotiate them individually afterwards.
You can open this forum and probably just in this thread and see why.
By grouping up everything into a single bill, you can pick and choose which parts you want to highlight in order to accuse people of being for or against those things.
So you can put - kill all pet dogs in there, an increase for pay in military soldiers, and everyone has to give their 1st born son to a foreign country in a single bill. Then if someone is against it, you say - this person is against giving a pay increase to the military, he's terrible. And you can try to point out the other parts all you want, but those are just the price to get that one thing that is good.
And they all know it, don't give a shite, and just think it's part of the game. All that matter is whatever agenda thing they want and they are willing to sacrifice everyone else to get it.
Welcome to hell.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 6:07 pm to Simplemaaan
do you honestly think trump can get 8 or so democrats to vote for one of his proposals that you would like to see implemented into law
Posted on 7/2/25 at 6:08 pm to SDVTiger
Exactly. These so-called “principled “ Republicans can’t see the big picture. If the Democrats take the House in 2026 and this isn’t passed before then, the country is screwed. Enjoy your “principled “ tax increase.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 6:08 pm to Simplemaaan
Big bills are how they negotiate....
Posted on 7/2/25 at 6:09 pm to 3down10
Trump Will never get any votes from Democrats because of their TDS. So the only way he can pass anything is by reconciliation avoiding the filibuster. Biden was able to pass some stuff like the infrastructure bill because republicans stupidly went along with it.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 6:09 pm to SDVTiger
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How about these do nothing Rs just put it in my butt bwfore we get a massive tax hike
FIFY. This is why they do these massive bills. If you oppose anything in it, you are for tax hikes, and you get primaried.
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