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House GOP members sounds off on Senate megabill changes

Posted on 7/1/25 at 7:16 pm
Posted by RelicBatches86
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 7:16 pm
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House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) is facing an explosion of internal anger among his members over the Senate's changes to President Trump's "big, beautiful bill."

Why it matters: The speaker has just days to pass the bill before Republicans' self-imposed July 4 deadline — which will require flipping dozens of "no" votes and overcoming numerous procedural hurdles.

"We knew the Senate would amend the House product. I encouraged them to amend it as lightly as possible. They went a little further than many of us would have preferred," Johnson told reporters on Tuesday.

What they're saying: "Our bill has been completely changed. ... It's a non-starter," Rep. Ralph Norman (R-S.C.) bemoaned to reporters on Tuesday.

Rep. Andy Ogles (R-Tenn.) said in a post on social media that he will introduce an amendment to the Senate bill that would delete all its text and replace it with the version passed by the House in May.
One House Republican, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told Axios there are "well over 20" GOP lawmakers threatening to vote against the bill.

State of play: The Senate voted 51-50 to pass their version of the bill on Tuesday, with Vice President Vance serving as the tiebreaker.

The bill would extend the 2017 Trump tax cuts and allocate funding for the president's immigration crackdown while cutting spending on Medicaid, food stamps and green energy subsidies.

Zoom in: Right-wing House Republicans are upset that the Senate bill is projected to add more to the deficit than the House version would.

"They're backing away from the spending cuts, the spending restraint. They're backing away from the reforms that we think makes the math work," Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas) said in a post on X.
Rep. Victoria Spartz (R-Ind.) noted that Johnson previously committed not to hold a vote on a bill that increases the deficit over a certain threshold, adding that "members will have a decision to make."

Between the lines: Johnson told conservative lawmakers earlier this year that they could try to remove him as speaker if he couldn't deliver $1.5 trillion in spending cuts in the final package.

"I've never lied to any of my colleagues, and I was trying to emphasize the point," Johnson told Axios in an April interview.

The bottom line: Johnson vowed in a statement after the Senate vote that the House will "work quickly" to pass the legislation and get it to Trump's desk by July 4.

"Republicans were elected to do exactly what this bill achieves: secure the border, make tax cuts permanent, unleash American energy dominance, restore peace through strength, cut wasteful spending, and return to a government that puts Americans first," he said.

Posted by Robcrzy
Mandeville
Member since Nov 2007
975 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 7:29 pm to
Far from over
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
62574 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 7:52 pm to
The system sucks. It never produces anything good, just more and more debt.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35440 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 7:54 pm to
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Rep. Andy Ogles (R-Tenn.) said in a post on social media that he will introduce an amendment to the Senate bill that would delete all its text and replace it with the version passed by the House in May.

Sounds like a serious person
Posted by Gator5220
Member since Aug 2010
4689 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 7:54 pm to
Republicans just can't get out of their own way.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35440 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 7:56 pm to
Omnibus legislation should be illegal by constitutional amendment.

Enormous bills like this will always be full of bad shite. And lots of it.

The choice to not pass these things in pieces was a mistake. Yes, I understand reconciliation and how it works
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 7:57 pm
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
13875 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 8:20 pm to
If they enjoy being in Congress, they had better step in line with MAGA. With Trump's polling right now, re-applying for a job every two years is a great way to get back to what you were doing before getting elected.
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
4639 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 8:27 pm to
This was all planned, they like the drama. It gets the sheep to cry "pass the bill", even if it's full of shite MAGA didn't vote for.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62420 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 8:30 pm to
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Enormous bills like this will always be full of bad shite. And lots of it.

The choice to not pass these things in pieces was a mistake.
Hilaroiusly, the SoH trying to get this BBW passed is in power because of MAGA’s (now long forgotten) Muh 12 Bills.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62420 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 8:33 pm to
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This was all planned, they like the drama. It gets the sheep to cry "pass the bill", even if it's full of shite MAGA didn't vote for.
Its been the GOPE’s strategy going back decades.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58467 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 8:52 pm to
Republicans cannot ever get anything done. Except for shite like No Child Left Behind.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35440 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 8:52 pm to
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Muh 12 Bills.

The twelve bills that couldn’t have passed the previous Senate?

Cramming everything into omnibus bills is an awful way to govern and leads to carveouts and pork.

Simple, clean, single issue bills are the way. Up or down votes on identifiable basis. Then we vote accordingly.

Unless and until we decide to change house terms from 2 to 4 or 6 years, this is how it has to be. You either get one big piece of dogshit legislation per POTUS term, or a couple targeted successful items.
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 8:53 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58467 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 8:53 pm to
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If they enjoy being in Congress, they had better step in line with MAGA. With Trump's polling right now,


Most Americans still disapprove of his job performance and the overwhelming majority of Americans disapprove of this omnibus bill.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35440 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 8:53 pm to
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Republicans cannot ever get anything done. Except for shite like No Child Left Behind.

The only thing Democrats have accomplished this century came simply because they had 60 senators for a few months.

Let’s not pretend like Congressional dysfunction is a partisan problem.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
18080 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:03 pm to
Pass it and immediately start a line by line recissiion bill to get it where it belongs.
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 9:05 pm
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13329 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:07 pm to
In before "this was the plan all along. They had to do it this way. They'll fix it with the next bill."
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58467 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:08 pm to
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The only thing Democrats have accomplished this century came simply because they had 60 senators for a few months.


I don’t think when what they have accomplished benefit us, but they can at least pass a bill.
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 9:12 pm
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38528 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:09 pm to
The whole "we have to pass it because the tax cuts will expire!" shite is garbage. Someone grow a pair and write a separate bill covering just the tax cuts. Force RINOs and Dems to put their names on a 'No' vote.
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