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Jay said he's going to follow this template for future teams...

Posted on 6/23/25 at 1:28 pm
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
20075 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 1:28 pm
Meaning stout defense and pitching.

I loved gorilla ball back in the day, but there's no substitute for watching the defense this year's team rolled out game after game. I used to tense up on hard hit grounders, but this team made everything look routine.

A friend who is an LSU fan but didn't watch much of the season until Omaha asked why we didn't have anyone better than Braswell in the lineup. After watching him make plays for a week, he understood.
Posted by LSUMANINVA
West Virginia
Member since Sep 2004
9145 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 1:30 pm to
100%....that UGA model surely doesn't work.....slugged their way to nowhere.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127690 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 1:31 pm to
Its probably the best strategy specifically for Omaha.

It gives you much more consistent results across the board, too.
Posted by LSshoe
Burrowing through a pile o MikePoop
Member since Jan 2008
4448 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 1:31 pm to
Doesn't mean his teams won't be able to mash nor hit bombs, I think that just means that priority will be given to defense. Which is probably wise in general unless the bat is too good to sit
Posted by JTTiger
Member since Dec 2003
185 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 1:32 pm to
Good pitching beats good hitting 8-9 times out of 10.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32376 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 1:39 pm to
If that’s the case, I would like to see Jay make some adjustments in how at least some of the batters work at the plate. Maybe shorten up swings for the guys who aren’t power hitters, especially with 2 strikes. Play for more line drives and singles in gaps than big swings to the wall and over. We had some long dry spells in games this season with guys constantly making big cuts and either popping or striking out.

The biggest weakness on this team once the bullpen pulled together was how streaky the hitting could be. It feels like there’s some room to just make solid contact for men on if we are focusing on defense more than power hitting.
Posted by Tigerfan14
Member since Jun 2014
1643 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 1:41 pm to
I think the balls were less juiced this year, which lead to less homeruns across the NCAA. 2 years ago it seemed like every top 25 team had a guy hitting .350+ with 20 HR. There were several players at P5 schools hitting .400 with power. That wasn’t a thing this year, and it played to our advantage.
Posted by Relham10
Ridge
Member since Jan 2013
19667 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 1:51 pm to
Worked out great because if you relied a bunch on the long ball and ran into this big park/big wind championship series, you would have been screwed. Need to be versatile with how you manufacture runs
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46154 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 1:52 pm to
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The biggest weakness on this team once the bullpen pulled together was how streaky the hitting could be. It feels like there’s some room to just make solid contact for men on if we are focusing on defense more than power hitting.


Did you watch the CWS? Because thats exactly what we did

3/8 w/ RISP and 5/15 w/ 2 outs is pretty damn good.

We held Coast to 0/9 Saturday night.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64458 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 1:56 pm to
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100%....that UGA model surely doesn't work.....slugged their way to nowhere.

And you get a sun burn on your chest
Posted by LSUMANINVA
West Virginia
Member since Sep 2004
9145 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 1:57 pm to
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And you get a sun burn on your chest


Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
27929 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

Its probably the best strategy specifically for Omaha.



Posted by Sharlo
Van down by the river.
Member since Oct 2021
1098 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 2:01 pm to
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Good pitching beats good hitting 8-9 times out of 10.


100%. Pitching and defense also travels better than gorilla ball. Slugging can be adversely affected by variables beyond control (wind, ballpark design, etc).

Makes sense to control what you can control.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
92519 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 2:01 pm to
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slugged their way to nowhere


Their HR #'s are so misleading due to the little league size field they play on.
Posted by jacksajester
Metry
Member since Jun 2014
2189 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 2:02 pm to
What can’t he recruit both?
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
23003 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 2:03 pm to
As long as he doesn’t go the extreme as. Paul Maneri Did sacrificing offense for defense
This post was edited on 6/23/25 at 2:04 pm
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
36801 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 2:05 pm to
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Meaning stout defense and pitching.


People forget, but that is how Bertman was originally, but then he was forced to adapt to Gorilla Ball....which of course he did successfully
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
49808 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 2:05 pm to
Considering Jay’s area of true expertise is offense, I think him building his teams around pitching and defense will end up being some really good, balanced teams.

He’s always going to have guys who can hit. It’s in his DNA
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49484 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

A friend who is an LSU fan but didn't watch much of the season until Omaha asked why we didn't have anyone better than Braswell in the lineup. After watching him make plays for a week, he understood.

shite we had posters here still asking that up 1-0 at the end of game 1 of the final
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
48648 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 2:07 pm to
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Meaning stout defense and pitching. I loved gorilla ball back in the day, but there's no substitute for watching the defense this year's team rolled out game after game. I used to tense up on hard hit grounders, but this team made everything look routine.


There is no reason you cannot have some power hitting in the mix with the above formula.
They had it this year. This team quietly hit over 100 homers. They were just inconsistent with the power.
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