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Forbes Piece: Flexible Work Was The Promise. The Infinite Workday Is The Reality

Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:46 am
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27174 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:46 am
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We used to know when the workday started. And when it ended.

Now? Not so much.

According to Microsoft’s latest Work Trend Index Special Report: Breaking Down the Infinite Workday, 40% of employees are already online by 6 a.m. A third are still answering emails at 10 p.m. And one in five is working on weekends.

This isn’t a policy. It’s not a leadership choice. It’s not even necessarily intentional.

It’s just what’s happening.


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What makes this even harder is that work isn’t just longer—it’s faster.

Email starts the day, but by 8 a.m., real-time chat takes over and the tempo accelerates. Microsoft found that the average worker now receives 117 emails and 153 Teams chats every day. Mass messages are up. One-on-one threads are down.

Flexibility has opened the door for asynchronous work. But without clarity on expectations, it’s also created a culture of immediate response. Everyone works on their own schedule, yet somehow, everyone expects everyone else to be instantly available.

We’re not just working longer hours—we’re working in a constant state of interruption.


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Because if flexibility really worked the way we imagined, we’d be using our best hours for our best thinking. But the data tells a different story. At 11 a.m., during what should be peak mental clarity, meetings, messages, and app-switching all spike. Workers are interrupted every two minutes.

We’ve unintentionally allowed our most productive hours to be consumed by reactive coordination. Focus hasn’t disappeared—it’s just been displaced by a culture of urgency.

And nowhere is that urgency more visible than in how we meet. Meetings were already a pain point in many organizations even before Covid. Back then, calendar and conference room capacity governed meeting planning. Now that digital tools have removed those limits, we simply add everyone—and move even faster.


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We see the result in the third work peak of the triple peak day, which is no longer a pandemic-era glitch. Evening meetings are up 16%, and a third of workers return to email after 10 p.m. Document activity (Word, Excel, PowerPoint) spikes on weekends—when the noise dies down and people finally find time to think.

Flexibility, once a promise of balance, now too often means always being available. And when everyone works on their own rhythm—but still expects immediate response—the result is a system with no real off switch. Without rest. Without recovery.


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This is the moment when many turn to AI with hope.

And yes, it can help. AI can handle the clutter: drafting emails, summarizing notes, scheduling meetings. But if we treat that freed-up time as space to do even more, we’re not fixing the problem—we’re accelerating it.


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The future of work will be shaped by technology. But to truly work for people, it will need to be defined by people.


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I’d be curious folks’ thoughts and experienced here. There’s definitely been a shift in how work is done coming out of Covid and apps like Microsoft Teams, where people have that not only on their laptops, but their phones as well.

I prefer to be a personable person in the workplace. Maybe it’s just the nature of my role in industry where you can’t be a desk body. You have to know how to interact with various personalities to get things done for the different teams and business units. So I miss the in person meetings. I hate when I new engineer joins a group and is part of planning and meetings, yet don’t even know what they look like and can’t look them in the eye for a casual conversation. Sure…the online meetings are great for folks calling in who office out of different locations, and the screen sharing for them is very helpful. But it would be nice to know that Jim or Jane isn’t just playing candy crush while someone is giving some important facts that are critical to the project.

The early hours and after hours stuff, yes, there is an increase since Covid, but at least in the setting I work in, I don’t necessarily feel required to respond immediately. Sometimes I do if I have an answer or insight that might be able to put an issue to bed or help, but I always feel a 8pm email with a question can wait till the next day. If there’s some dire emergency that someone needs my attention ASAP, they can call my cell. I’ll pick up.

One thing I’ve found that does irk me is some high school teachers and college professors have used this technology of availability to push things on students that we didn’t have to deal with when I was in school. Didn’t have to turn in some assignment online by 11:59pm. Certainly not in high school. So I feel bad for kids who end up with teachers and professors who make it tough for them to unplug and just handle after school hours shite the way we did.

Again, thoughts from others? Sorry for the length, but I do find discussions around how the workplace (and schooling) coming out of Covid has drastically changed. Some good, some bad, in my personal experience.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
90962 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:47 am to
Bad: whenever my wife hears a teams call end she pops into my office and asks if I'm done for the day.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27174 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:48 am to
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Bad: whenever my wife hears a teams call end she pops into my office and asks if I'm done for the day.


The got dang rumba starting up while on a call.

During all the full time work from home, I eventually volunteered to help check and distribute mail just to get out of the house.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 7:53 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
155292 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:50 am to
In my experience, I've found that the people in my office want to work from home moreso because of the freedom that it gives you to sort of do whatever you want rather than them "being more productive" at home. I work for the State, and June 30 is the last day of WFH per the governor. Starting July 1 everybody has to be back in the office full time. And people here are freaking the frick out about it. It's so weird to me that they are so bent out of shape because they have to come back to work.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
33667 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:52 am to
People who schedule meetings after Noon on Fridays are

Side note: recently was assigned to a new project with my organization and in order to catch up they decided to send me a recording of a previous meeting then ask them if I had any follow-up questions. Is this where we are now?
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
90962 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:52 am to
Yesterday was a nightmare. 9am and 10am calls, trying to watch the LSU game discreetly, wife asking me to go chase the dog that got loose and 2 can-kickers who were fixing a problem with my irrigation system kept banging on the door to ask asinine questions and of course the dogs that hadn't run away were barking their heads off every time they knocked

100% true story
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
15542 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:53 am to
Whenever I WFH I'm usually getting started between 430 or 5 AM depending on when I wake up. If I'm going into the office I start at 6. When WFH I work until I hit my hours or I'm finished with what I'm working on. At the office I stay until I hit my hours regardless of how much work I have to do. I'm salaried so I don't lose out on any money knocking off early. Just don't like to do it when I'm visible . I pretty much make my own schedule and the hours I work don't matter as long as I'm on top of my projects. Just don't like to abuse the freedom.

I tend to be a lot more productive in the morning so I take advantage of that when WFH. Also, I shut down earlier. If I were more productive late at night I'd be on the other end of it and starting later.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 7:58 am
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
90962 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:53 am to
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in order to catch up they decided to send me a recording of a previous meeting then ask them if I had any follow-up questions. Is this where we are now?
or my new favorite: people who send their AI bot to the meeting to take notes because they're too "busy"to join
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27174 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:54 am to
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People who schedule meetings after Noon on Fridays are


No shite. There better be a got dang well or facility literally on fire for those shenanigans!
Posted by pelicansfan123
Member since Jan 2015
2330 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:54 am to
If I know I'm going to be home all day, I don't mind doing some light work "after hours" on my couch with the college baseball regionals in the background or whatever. It doesn't really feel like "work work" to me. And, when there are breaks in the day, going to do the laundry, clean, etc. (stuff I don't enjoy that I would be doing after work anyways).

I would much rather do that then sit at my desk at work all day, make forced conversation with colleagues, and then have those tasks to do after work. And that doesn't even take into account if you have a long commute, if you don't like your coworkers (I luckily like mine), and the extra time in the morning you are spending having to rush to get ready to leave for work.

I think two days in-office and three days remote is the perfect balance.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 8:01 pm
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
15542 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:54 am to
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Side note: recently was assigned to a new project with my organization and in order to catch up they decided to send me a recording of a previous meeting then ask them if I had any follow-up questions. Is this where we are now?


I'd run that sh*t through AI and get cliff notes generated
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
90962 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:55 am to
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Starting July 1 everybody has to be back in the office full time. And people here are freaking the frick out about it. It's so weird to me that they are so bent out of shape because they have to come back to work.
I actually prefer to sneak away to the office (see my comment above) especially in the summer so I can focus.

"sneak away" to the office. Is this where we are now?
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
21711 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:55 am to
I think this is the dirty side of WFH that people ignore. If you're working from your house and have a cell phone, you're always available. I still see the value in being able to walk to my home office rather than commute, deal with water cooler talk, etc. but there are downsides to being hyper-available too
Posted by olemc999
At a blackjack table
Member since Oct 2010
15007 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:56 am to
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I work for the State, and June 30 is the last day of WFH per the governor. Starting July 1 everybody has to be back in the office full time


Commercial real estate will collapse if WFH becomes the norm. The bankers got into the government’s ear.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66097 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:57 am to
Staying home for COVID was weird to me. I just felt less efficient during the day and took a bunch of breaks, but my day went from like 8:00-8:00.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:58 am to
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you're always available


The little Teams and Outlook noises are seared into my brain.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27174 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:58 am to
One thing during Covid WFH I did was learn how to maintain all the chemical balance in my pool and took over the weekly maintenance stuff rather than continue having a service do it. Quickly found myself tending to it daily, even multiple times a day cleaning and scrubbing, as a way to go outside and break away a bit.

The pool never looked so good and the yard as dogshit free as back then.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 8:03 am
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
33667 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:59 am to
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I'd run that sh*t through AI and get cliff notes generated



Still waiting on being granted access but thank god that there is an AI notes option for this meeting but good lord, zero organizational skills. I don't even think that they have a ticket created for this effort yet
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
90962 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:00 am to
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Staying home for COVID was weird to me. I just felt less efficient during the day and took a bunch of breaks, but my day went from like 8:00-8:00.
COVID year1 I sat on my fat arse for an entire year.

Took my desk to Goodwill and bought a standing desk and haven't sat a day in 4 years now. In fact I've tried to lower it a couple times to see what is like to sit and it feels so awkward I raise it right back up.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27174 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:01 am to
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"sneak away" to the office. Is this where we are now?


Except now with Life360, if you have it, then the wife knows when your sneaking away to the office has turned into meeting a buddy at the bar for 1pm.
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