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How close do we think Iran really was to nukes?
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:38 am
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:38 am
This part to me is the hard part to decipher. Clearly there was concern over it, they must have been fairly close to warrant action.
But after Iraq & WMD, I think it’s fair to say the US public is not afforded the truth in operations like this.
Really I just do not want US military intervention here. Hopefully, Israel’s op was so successful that we really have no reason to go in.
But after Iraq & WMD, I think it’s fair to say the US public is not afforded the truth in operations like this.
Really I just do not want US military intervention here. Hopefully, Israel’s op was so successful that we really have no reason to go in.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:39 am to Yaboylsu63
Supposedly a few weeks away.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:39 am to Yaboylsu63
Probably pretty close all things considered.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:40 am to Yaboylsu63
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Hopefully, Israel’s op was so successful that we really have no reason to go in.
I think it was. It was very precise. More so than anything we've ever done.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:40 am to Yaboylsu63
Closer than I am comfortable with regardless of where they were at lol
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:41 am to castorinho
quote:which is amazingly similar to "hours to centuries away"
days to years away.
a nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 9:52 am
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:43 am to Yaboylsu63
Considering the last administration, probably pretty close.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:44 am to Yaboylsu63
They've been "weeks away" for two decades. They just bring this up anew whenever they need to stir up shite in the middle east.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:44 am to Yaboylsu63
They've been "weeks away from developing a nuclear weapon" for 2+ decades, so who's to tell?
A fully functioning civilian nuclear power plant can produce sufficient spent nuclear fuel to produce any number of weapons.
From Grok:
I'm already on all the lists. IDGAF.
A fully functioning civilian nuclear power plant can produce sufficient spent nuclear fuel to produce any number of weapons.
From Grok:
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Yes, spent nuclear fuel from a civilian nuclear power plant can, in theory, be used to develop a nuclear warhead, but it requires significant technical expertise, specialized facilities, and complex processes. Here's a concise explanation:
Spent Nuclear Fuel Composition: Spent fuel from civilian reactors contains:
Residual uranium (mostly uranium-238 with <1% uranium-235, too low for weapons without further enrichment).
Plutonium isotopes, primarily plutonium-239 (Pu-239), produced when uranium-238 absorbs neutrons during reactor operation. Pu-239 is fissile and suitable for nuclear weapons.
Fission products and other transuranic elements (radioactive waste).
Plutonium-239 for Weapons:
Pu-239 is the key material that could be used for a nuclear warhead. A typical 1,000 MW pressurized water reactor produces about 200-300 kg of plutonium annually in spent fuel, of which roughly 60-70% is Pu-239.
For a nuclear warhead, about 4-8 kg of weapons-grade plutonium (ideally >90% Pu-239) is needed for a basic implosion-type bomb, though reactor-grade plutonium (with higher Pu-240 content) can also be used, albeit with technical challenges.
Challenges and Requirements:
Reprocessing: To extract Pu-239, spent fuel must be reprocessed using chemical processes (e.g., PUREX) in specialized facilities. This is complex, costly, and requires handling highly radioactive materials.
Plutonium Quality: Reactor-grade plutonium (from civilian reactors) has higher levels of Pu-240, which can cause pre-detonation issues in weapons, making it less ideal than weapons-grade plutonium but still usable for crude devices.
Technical Expertise: Designing and building a functional warhead requires advanced knowledge of nuclear physics, metallurgy, and explosives, along with precision engineering for the implosion mechanism.
Safeguards and Detection: Spent fuel is heavily monitored under international safeguards (e.g., IAEA). Diversion of material would likely be detected, as reprocessing facilities are tightly regulated and not widely available.
Practicality: While technically feasible, the process is highly impractical for most actors due to the need for sophisticated infrastructure, expertise, and the risk of detection. Countries or groups seeking nuclear weapons would more likely pursue dedicated enrichment or plutonium production programs (e.g., using specialized reactors) rather than relying on civilian spent fuel.
In summary, spent nuclear fuel contains plutonium that could theoretically be used for a nuclear warhead, but the process is extremely complex, tightly regulated, and impractical for most scenarios.
I'm already on all the lists. IDGAF.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 9:47 am
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:44 am to Yaboylsu63
Probably closer than we realized. Some nations should never have nukes. Iran tops that list
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:45 am to Yaboylsu63
They should've been very close or already there. Black Messiah started funding them at least ten years ago.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:46 am to theballguy
Bibi claimed in his live address that they had enriched enough uranium to make 9 nuclear warheads
But none of us will ever know the truth in these situations. Iran choosing to publicly say they were going to prevent the IAEA from oversight and that they were going to build secret reactors is an epic FAFO decision
But none of us will ever know the truth in these situations. Iran choosing to publicly say they were going to prevent the IAEA from oversight and that they were going to build secret reactors is an epic FAFO decision
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:46 am to Yaboylsu63
Much closer than they are right now.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:46 am to Yaboylsu63
Allow me to try to answer this seriously.
I think they've been close for quite some time. Whether they were a few months away, or even decades, it doesn't change the fact that Iran certainly is trying to create one to actually use it to annihilate Israel, not have them for protection
I think they've been close for quite some time. Whether they were a few months away, or even decades, it doesn't change the fact that Iran certainly is trying to create one to actually use it to annihilate Israel, not have them for protection
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:46 am to LRB1967
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Probably closer than we realized. Some nations should never have nukes. Iran tops that list
N. Korea is far more a threat than Iran, they have nukes.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:48 am to RogerTheShrubber
DPRK and Pakistan/India are prime examples of why preventing nuclear proliferation needs to be enforced, with force if necessary. We had close enough calls with the USSR on nuclear warfare, the more countries who have nukes the more likely the big one goes off one day.
Ike's "atoms for peace" program was one of the most retarded policy decisions in American history
Ike's "atoms for peace" program was one of the most retarded policy decisions in American history
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:51 am to GeauxBurrow312
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Ike's "atoms for peace" program was one of the most retarded policy decisions in American history
Are you familiar with the term "the long peace?"
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:52 am to Yaboylsu63
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Really I just do not want US military intervention here. Hopefully, Israel’s op was so successful that we really have no reason to go in.
Successful or not, President Trump said we would not take part in the attack. The chance that we "go in" with anything in Iran is pretty close to zero.
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