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How close do we think Iran really was to nukes?

Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:38 am
Posted by Yaboylsu63
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:38 am
This part to me is the hard part to decipher. Clearly there was concern over it, they must have been fairly close to warrant action.

But after Iraq & WMD, I think it’s fair to say the US public is not afforded the truth in operations like this.

Really I just do not want US military intervention here. Hopefully, Israel’s op was so successful that we really have no reason to go in.
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:39 am to
Supposedly a few weeks away.
Posted by Arkaea79
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:39 am to
Probably pretty close all things considered.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:39 am to
days to years away.
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:40 am to
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Hopefully, Israel’s op was so successful that we really have no reason to go in.


I think it was. It was very precise. More so than anything we've ever done.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:40 am to
Closer than I am comfortable with regardless of where they were at lol
Posted by FriendofBaruch
Member since Mar 2025
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:41 am to
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days to years away.
which is amazingly similar to "hours to centuries away"

a nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 9:52 am
Posted by The Scofflaw
Metairie, LA
Member since Sep 2014
1560 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:42 am to
Yellow cake redux.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:43 am to
Considering the last administration, probably pretty close.
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:44 am to
They've been "weeks away" for two decades. They just bring this up anew whenever they need to stir up shite in the middle east.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:44 am to
They've been "weeks away from developing a nuclear weapon" for 2+ decades, so who's to tell?

A fully functioning civilian nuclear power plant can produce sufficient spent nuclear fuel to produce any number of weapons.

From Grok:

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Yes, spent nuclear fuel from a civilian nuclear power plant can, in theory, be used to develop a nuclear warhead, but it requires significant technical expertise, specialized facilities, and complex processes. Here's a concise explanation:
Spent Nuclear Fuel Composition: Spent fuel from civilian reactors contains:

Residual uranium (mostly uranium-238 with <1% uranium-235, too low for weapons without further enrichment).

Plutonium isotopes, primarily plutonium-239 (Pu-239), produced when uranium-238 absorbs neutrons during reactor operation. Pu-239 is fissile and suitable for nuclear weapons.

Fission products and other transuranic elements (radioactive waste).

Plutonium-239 for Weapons:
Pu-239 is the key material that could be used for a nuclear warhead. A typical 1,000 MW pressurized water reactor produces about 200-300 kg of plutonium annually in spent fuel, of which roughly 60-70% is Pu-239.

For a nuclear warhead, about 4-8 kg of weapons-grade plutonium (ideally >90% Pu-239) is needed for a basic implosion-type bomb, though reactor-grade plutonium (with higher Pu-240 content) can also be used, albeit with technical challenges.

Challenges and Requirements:
Reprocessing: To extract Pu-239, spent fuel must be reprocessed using chemical processes (e.g., PUREX) in specialized facilities. This is complex, costly, and requires handling highly radioactive materials.

Plutonium Quality: Reactor-grade plutonium (from civilian reactors) has higher levels of Pu-240, which can cause pre-detonation issues in weapons, making it less ideal than weapons-grade plutonium but still usable for crude devices.

Technical Expertise: Designing and building a functional warhead requires advanced knowledge of nuclear physics, metallurgy, and explosives, along with precision engineering for the implosion mechanism.

Safeguards and Detection: Spent fuel is heavily monitored under international safeguards (e.g., IAEA). Diversion of material would likely be detected, as reprocessing facilities are tightly regulated and not widely available.

Practicality: While technically feasible, the process is highly impractical for most actors due to the need for sophisticated infrastructure, expertise, and the risk of detection. Countries or groups seeking nuclear weapons would more likely pursue dedicated enrichment or plutonium production programs (e.g., using specialized reactors) rather than relying on civilian spent fuel.
In summary, spent nuclear fuel contains plutonium that could theoretically be used for a nuclear warhead, but the process is extremely complex, tightly regulated, and impractical for most scenarios.


I'm already on all the lists. IDGAF.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 9:47 am
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
21442 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:44 am to
Probably closer than we realized. Some nations should never have nukes. Iran tops that list
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
6628 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:45 am to
They should've been very close or already there. Black Messiah started funding them at least ten years ago.
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
2598 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:46 am to
Bibi claimed in his live address that they had enriched enough uranium to make 9 nuclear warheads

But none of us will ever know the truth in these situations. Iran choosing to publicly say they were going to prevent the IAEA from oversight and that they were going to build secret reactors is an epic FAFO decision
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
45906 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:46 am to
Much closer than they are right now.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
65923 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:46 am to
Allow me to try to answer this seriously.
I think they've been close for quite some time. Whether they were a few months away, or even decades, it doesn't change the fact that Iran certainly is trying to create one to actually use it to annihilate Israel, not have them for protection
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283853 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:46 am to
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Probably closer than we realized. Some nations should never have nukes. Iran tops that list


N. Korea is far more a threat than Iran, they have nukes.
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
2598 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:48 am to
DPRK and Pakistan/India are prime examples of why preventing nuclear proliferation needs to be enforced, with force if necessary. We had close enough calls with the USSR on nuclear warfare, the more countries who have nukes the more likely the big one goes off one day.

Ike's "atoms for peace" program was one of the most retarded policy decisions in American history
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283853 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:51 am to
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Ike's "atoms for peace" program was one of the most retarded policy decisions in American history


Are you familiar with the term "the long peace?"

Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14370 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:52 am to
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Really I just do not want US military intervention here. Hopefully, Israel’s op was so successful that we really have no reason to go in.


Successful or not, President Trump said we would not take part in the attack. The chance that we "go in" with anything in Iran is pretty close to zero.
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