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WVU’s Coach had absolutely WILD Pitching Changes
Posted on 6/7/25 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 6/7/25 at 5:33 pm
I don’t know why, but it sure seems like up 3-1 with Anderson on the mound he conceded the game. I spent a lot of time looking at their stats and past games prior to the weekend. So I was familiar with their staff…but the guys outside of Kirn were the absolute scrubs.
-Glasscock pitched 4 total innings in Big12 in blowout losses or wins
-Fehrman basically pitched when Cock did in blowouts
-Hutson had been used often during blowouts but hadn’t pitched in a month. He wasn’t a problem.
-Lyman has not pitched SINCE THE END OF MARCH.
Basically, it is 3-1 going to the 5th. Kirn gives up deep single. Gets pulled for Cock. Cock throws 7 balls and pulled, brings in a dude equally as inexperienced, proceeds to throw 2 balls to walk Jones, then give up a granny to Milam. He then hits Herandez and walks Dickinson. Gets pulled for Hutson who has been used to keep teams at bay. He gives up a couple hits and it becomes 10-1. WVU responds by putting up 4 and cutting the lead to 10-5.
Then, instead of using one of your reliable pitchers, their coach decides to put Hutson back out there and gives up a hit and a walk, gets Bras out. Now here is the BIG KICKER…down 5 runs in a SUPER REGIONAL he puts in a guy who has not pitched in 9 weeks in 105° weather. We immediately score 6 runs and it didn’t matter what they did after that.
I have been critical about some pitching decisions Jay has made, but it has never been in situations where you are playing for the season. I guess their coach felt he had a tiny chance to come back (even though every game in the regional they came from behind). Regardless, his decisions to pitch scrubs and save his arms allowed LSU to also not have to use arms.
-Glasscock pitched 4 total innings in Big12 in blowout losses or wins
-Fehrman basically pitched when Cock did in blowouts
-Hutson had been used often during blowouts but hadn’t pitched in a month. He wasn’t a problem.
-Lyman has not pitched SINCE THE END OF MARCH.
Basically, it is 3-1 going to the 5th. Kirn gives up deep single. Gets pulled for Cock. Cock throws 7 balls and pulled, brings in a dude equally as inexperienced, proceeds to throw 2 balls to walk Jones, then give up a granny to Milam. He then hits Herandez and walks Dickinson. Gets pulled for Hutson who has been used to keep teams at bay. He gives up a couple hits and it becomes 10-1. WVU responds by putting up 4 and cutting the lead to 10-5.
Then, instead of using one of your reliable pitchers, their coach decides to put Hutson back out there and gives up a hit and a walk, gets Bras out. Now here is the BIG KICKER…down 5 runs in a SUPER REGIONAL he puts in a guy who has not pitched in 9 weeks in 105° weather. We immediately score 6 runs and it didn’t matter what they did after that.
I have been critical about some pitching decisions Jay has made, but it has never been in situations where you are playing for the season. I guess their coach felt he had a tiny chance to come back (even though every game in the regional they came from behind). Regardless, his decisions to pitch scrubs and save his arms allowed LSU to also not have to use arms.
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Posted on 6/7/25 at 5:35 pm to LSUButt
I was really surprised to see that lefty come out with like 89 pitches and then who they put in after that.
Anybody else familiar with their team? I guess Sunday and Monday is what they are playing for?
LSU still in a good spot because of the amount of offense today, we didn't have to burn much of anybody in pitching.
Anybody else familiar with their team? I guess Sunday and Monday is what they are playing for?
LSU still in a good spot because of the amount of offense today, we didn't have to burn much of anybody in pitching.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 5:36 pm to LSUButt
I have no reason to doubt what you say. So that means WVU coach is overmatched or cracked under pressure. I like it.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 5:37 pm to Codythetiger
Yea they have 3 reliable arms in the pen and saved them all.
Still a tall order going against Eyanson and our top pen arms
Still a tall order going against Eyanson and our top pen arms
This post was edited on 6/7/25 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 6/7/25 at 5:37 pm to LSUButt
He’s only got a couple halfway decent bullpen arms and he wasn’t going to burn them without a lead when he’s guaranteed another game.
Jay wouldn’t have pitched Evans in that situation either.
Jay wouldn’t have pitched Evans in that situation either.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 5:39 pm to CottonWasKing
We need a lead in the middle innings tomorrow.
Eyanson to Evans is our ticket.
Eyanson to Evans is our ticket.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 5:42 pm to Codythetiger
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Anybody else familiar with their team? I guess Sunday and Monday is what they are playing for?
I think this is the answer right here.
For one, they don't have a good bullpen. They really struggle. But I think once we took the lead and that crowd got behind the team the coach cracked a bit but also knew it was going to be a tough come back.
Pulling that starting pitcher so early and then the reliever they went to afterwards definitely screams playing for tomorrow and maybe even the coach being a little shook.
ETA - the relievers they went to weren't their best, by a long shot. They only have 1 or 2 good relievers and that guy wasn't it.
This post was edited on 6/7/25 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 6/7/25 at 5:42 pm to LSUButt
Pulling Kirn early gives him a chance to come back in game 3. He'll use his best pitchers outside of Kirn tomorrow. The whole staff is very taxed. He definitely has to be more methodical.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 5:42 pm to CottonWasKing
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He’s only got a couple halfway decent bullpen arms and he wasn’t going to burn them without a lead when he’s guaranteed another game.
I get that but he has lots of mid-tier guys that have thrown a lot of innings sitting in their bullpen that they didn't use. They were clawing back into this game offensively but instead of going with his guys who have 20-30 innings on the season he was using guys with <10 IP on the year. This isn't a regional it's a 3 game series
Posted on 6/7/25 at 5:43 pm to lsu711
Have been trying to figure out who wvu starts tomorrow...no luck thus far
Posted on 6/7/25 at 5:43 pm to LSUButt
Thinking he succeeded the lose hoping to save his better arms for games 2&3… hopefully. Not too sure about the rest of his bullpen..
Posted on 6/7/25 at 5:48 pm to wfallstiger
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Have been trying to figure out who wvu starts tomorrow...no luck thus far
If I had to guess, I’d go with Kartsonas
Posted on 6/7/25 at 5:48 pm to CottonWasKing
It was 3-1 and he brought in a Freshman that in his very brief appearances has only once come into a game where it is less than 3 runs, then double downed. I’m more shocked after they got to 10-5 he made an even dumber decision.
And yea, they have pretty mid arms, but they have guys that have at least competed and been in the situation. Bassinger, Meyer, McDougal, Estridge, Hudson. If they sub one of those guys in at 3-1 maybe some of that doesn’t happen. You now have to beat LSU twice in a row with Eyanson and Evans still available for LSU. I just think it is wild he didn’t even try to weather thr storm before he just gave up
And yea, they have pretty mid arms, but they have guys that have at least competed and been in the situation. Bassinger, Meyer, McDougal, Estridge, Hudson. If they sub one of those guys in at 3-1 maybe some of that doesn’t happen. You now have to beat LSU twice in a row with Eyanson and Evans still available for LSU. I just think it is wild he didn’t even try to weather thr storm before he just gave up
Posted on 6/7/25 at 5:50 pm to CottonWasKing
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He’s only got a couple halfway decent bullpen arms and he wasn’t going to burn them without a lead when he’s guaranteed another game.
Jay wouldn’t have pitched Evans in that situation either.
No...but I don't think Jay would have dusted off a couple dudes who have only thrown 6 innings all year either. The guys WV pitched down 3-1 were our equivalent to Grant Fontenot and Chandler Dorsey (each pitched 5 innings this year)
That tells me our pen has way more capable guys than theirs does.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 5:51 pm to wfallstiger
Kartsonas and his fu manchu are tomorrow
He saved his arms and he allowed us to save all of ours, and we don’t have very good ones either.
He saved his arms and he allowed us to save all of ours, and we don’t have very good ones either.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 5:52 pm to LSUButt
It's not giving up if one of those guys pitches to what he believes is their potential. If he brings in his more proven arms in game 1 and they pitch below their potential, you're rolling the dice even more in game 2. His decisions were based on winning this game in 3.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 5:52 pm to LSUButt
He made horrible moves today, starting that guy at 1B who was hitting .150 this season with half a dozen starts? Wtf
The 2 no names throwing in relief after taking your starter out who throws 100-110+ typically in a 3-1 game is ridiculously baffling
If it was 10-1, sure throw your garbage, 3-1 though? Awful
The 2 no names throwing in relief after taking your starter out who throws 100-110+ typically in a 3-1 game is ridiculously baffling
If it was 10-1, sure throw your garbage, 3-1 though? Awful
This post was edited on 6/7/25 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 6/7/25 at 5:54 pm to LSUButt
That stupid mfer with his mound visits and pitching changes kept his team standing on that hot arse field way too long... what an idiot
Posted on 6/7/25 at 5:55 pm to LSUButt
He's playing for the next 2 games. Seems he realized that they could not handle the heat. Their pitchers were even struggling in the bullpen if you watched them. They would lean over and basically labor. He absolutely was not going to waste his best bullpen in that situation. He basically conceded this game once he took the starter out.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 5:55 pm to LSUButt
I think he definitely played his odds of saving arms and trying to win game 2 and 3. I don’t think it was a smart move considering they ended up scoring 9 runs. Though you could argue LSU pitching wouldn’t have given up that many in a tighter game. The pitching relaxed.
It was very odd move only down a couple runs. WV coach is either genius or in over in head.
It was very odd move only down a couple runs. WV coach is either genius or in over in head.
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