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CCA has really lost its way….
Posted on 6/7/25 at 10:04 am
Posted on 6/7/25 at 10:04 am
Saw this on my Facebook feed from the North Carolina chapter, they want bottom trawling banned.
This is the post:
This is the post:
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Trawl scars, visible from space. These satellite images show the devastating impact of bottom trawling—massive nets dragged across the seafloor, stripping it bare and leaving deep scars behind. This isn’t just local damage effecting North Carolina’s sounds and estuaries. It’s global destruction, hidden beneath the surface.
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Posted on 6/7/25 at 10:33 am to TJG210
Trawlers down here have hated them since they were GCCA. They've always not been down with the commercial fishermen.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 10:38 am to TJG210
Their reasoning for wanting to ban it lines up with CCA’s mission of protecting coastal fisheries habitats 
If the trawls are tearing up the bottoms where there’s submerged grass, shells, or other stuff that bait species rely on, then I’m not sure why it would be a shock that CCA wants to do something.
If the trawls are tearing up the bottoms where there’s submerged grass, shells, or other stuff that bait species rely on, then I’m not sure why it would be a shock that CCA wants to do something.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 11:06 am to TJG210
Bottom trawling is adverse to the goals and objectives of recreational fishermen to protect and enhance coastal fish habitat.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 11:24 am to TJG210
You might not agree with them, but I think banning trawling would be beneficial to coastal conservation. I don’t know why that makes you think they lost their way.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 1:25 pm to TJG210
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Trawl scars, visible from space. These satellite images show the devastating impact of bottom trawling—massive nets dragged across the seafloor, stripping it bare and leaving deep scars behind. This isn’t just local damage effecting North Carolina’s sounds and estuaries. It’s global destruction, hidden beneath the surface.
That post is long on histrionic emotional appeal and short on facts.
Of course you can see fresh trawl lines, excuse me, "scars", from space. I can see my car from space on google maps. That doesn't make it an object of "global" scale
We're talking about scraping across the top of the sea floor and churning up a few inches of underlying fresh sand/silt that has a different color than the surface that has algae / debris atop it. It is the equivalent of pulling a plow across a field of grass and exposing soil.
Nothing is removed. Easily visible by satellite.
And unlike true "scars", I expect the detectable physical changes in the seafloor fade rapidly and completely.
is there any reason to believe there's any permanent harm done mechanically to the seafloor, or resulting in some irreversible harm to the global environment?
In an area with active trawling, what percentage of the seafloor is visibly disrupted at any given time?
how long does it take for a trawl line to fade?
these are some of the questions reasonable person would want to have answered before judging the legitimacy of the concern.
Instead, I believe the person that posted this Facebook appeal is anti-trawling for reasons unstated, and is attempting to sway our opinion against trawling by using dishonest superficial emotional appeal, on the insulting presumption that we are easily so swayed and sufficiently dim to accept the premise that any man-made visible change on the surface of the Earth is inherently disruptive on a global ecologic scale
I am both a sportsman and supporter of the Louisiana seafood industry, excepting in-shore poagie boats, and recognize that those two parties are often opposed, but also often in step
I suspect that the author of this Facebook post would no more approve of me fishing the marsh for specs and reds than he approves trawling, with true motives that I very likely would oppose
This post was edited on 6/7/25 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 6/7/25 at 2:59 pm to luvdoc
quote:Doing that tears up any submerged grass that bait species need. Same for shells or other structure that attracts bait…gets turned over and buried under mud.
We're talking about scraping across the top of the sea floor and churning up a few inches of underlying fresh sand/silt that has a different color than the surface that has algae / debris atop it. It is the equivalent of pulling a plow across a field of grass and exposing soil.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 3:56 pm to Shanks A Lot
Your link is referring to damage done by boat propellers in shallow water dragging crab traps through grass beds along the shoreline, and the time takes for the grass to regrow.
Perhaps my perception is wrong, but don't most commercial trawlers in Louisiana Waters operate more or less in Open water of sufficient depth that propeller damage is unlikely, and thick grass beds unusual?
Apples/oranges?
Perhaps my perception is wrong, but don't most commercial trawlers in Louisiana Waters operate more or less in Open water of sufficient depth that propeller damage is unlikely, and thick grass beds unusual?
Apples/oranges?
This post was edited on 6/8/25 at 11:04 am
Posted on 6/8/25 at 9:24 am to TJG210
Alright CCA, now may I draw your attention to pogie boats and their decimation of the redfish population.
Posted on 6/8/25 at 10:48 am to Semper Gumby
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Alright CCA, now may I draw your attention to pogie boats and their decimation of the redfish population.
Not to be dick, but what do you think CCA’s main fight has been for the last 5 years?
Posted on 6/8/25 at 1:38 pm to Semper Gumby
quote:habitat degradation over the last 100 years is a much bigger culprit. They and the LDWF are pretty powerless to do much about the pogie boats that's the Governor and the legislative branch.
Alright CCA, now may I draw your attention to pogie boats and their decimation of the redfish population.
Posted on 6/8/25 at 2:02 pm to TJG210
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CCA has really lost its way….
I gave up my membership when they would not support fisherman in the waterways issue. Follow the money.
Posted on 6/8/25 at 2:57 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
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I gave up my membership when they would not support fisherman in the waterways issue. Follow the money.
How would you fix it?
Posted on 6/8/25 at 3:20 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
How would CCA amend the SC ruling??
Posted on 6/8/25 at 4:02 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
It’s become my favorite talking point by the anti CCa crowd. A conservation group who’s mission to protect marine resources should fight both the state and private land owners over marsh canals and navigable waters.
Posted on 6/8/25 at 4:39 pm to TJG210
Coni’s and Huge rays follow this daggers in Pamlico Sound.
They pull in and kill lot of flounder and red drum by accident.
They have to throw them back as a no keep.
They pull in and kill lot of flounder and red drum by accident.
They have to throw them back as a no keep.
Posted on 6/8/25 at 6:11 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
quote:so DU and DW should be fighting to open up private lakes and ponds to public duck hunters?
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CCA has really lost its way….
I gave up my membership when they would not support fisherman in the waterways issue. Follow the money.
Posted on 6/8/25 at 6:13 pm to luvdoc
Happen to be watching a National Geogrsphic show last night and they covered the damage from trawling. Pretty devastating. Like anything…. A few trawls don’t matter. Start adding them up into the hundred, thousands, ten thousands.. the damage is pretty incredible. Something like the size of the Amazon rain forest every year. Not just the damage to plant life, oyster beds, etc.., but the incredible by catch waste.
They put cameras on the trawls and you can watch the the damage taking place. Nothing can escape. By catch on top is off the charts and a huge waste.
They put cameras on the trawls and you can watch the the damage taking place. Nothing can escape. By catch on top is off the charts and a huge waste.
Posted on 6/8/25 at 6:23 pm to TJG210
You have heard the word bycatch?
It means millions of dead fish killed by shrimp trawls.
It means millions of dead fish killed by shrimp trawls.
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