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Ethane Exports to China (Major Buyer) Coming Under Scrutiny
Posted on 6/5/25 at 7:49 am
Posted on 6/5/25 at 7:49 am
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The federal government has asked Energy Transfer to secure a license in order to continue exporting ethane in the latest shot in the trade war with China.
The conflict has seen ethane and propane trade between the United States and China suffer significant disruption, of which the federal government’s demand for an export license is the latest demonstration.
Reuters reported that Energy Transfer’s peer Enterprise Products Partners had also said it was asked to secure a license to keep exporting petrochemical feedstock. Both companies have requested emergency authorization for their continued exports, the publication said.
Last year, propane exports from the United States hit a record high since records began back in 1973. These exports had been rising for 17 years straight, the Energy Information Administration reported last month, as natural gas production boomed—and as demand for petrochemicals from Asia increased, especially from China.
Indeed, China is a major buyer of U.S. ethane and propane—it is the largest buyer of U.S. ethane and the second-largest buyer of U.S. propane.
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Now, the Commerce Department has informed ethane exporters that sending ethane to Chinese buyers is unacceptable because it may be used to produce goods for military use, hence the requirement for a license.
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This is problematic not only for China. China is the biggest buyer of the petrochemical commodities, there are no comparable alternative buyers in terms of size for the U.S. producers of these commodities.
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 7:51 am to ragincajun03
I guess they got them a lot of shrimp boils over there, them.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 7:53 am to ragincajun03
Why is making a company get a license a problem for China?
Posted on 6/5/25 at 7:59 am to dkreller
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Why is making a company get a license a problem for China?
Because if the license isn't granted, China doesn't get its ethane and propane. Not that we should feel sympathetic for them. It's just stating a fact.
Hopefully U.S. companies that depend on exports of these products can secure other buyers quickly.
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 8:00 am
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:03 am to ragincajun03
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The federal government has asked Energy Transfer to secure a license in order to continue exporting ethane in the latest shot in the trade war with China.
So much for small, unintrusive government.
ET has enough problems getting out of its own way.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:05 am to Ash Williams
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I guess they got them a lot of shrimp boils over there, them.
Propane for those high heat wok burners
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:08 am to Lakeboy7
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So much for small, unintrusive government.
Cool, love companies doing business with command economies behind a thin mask of free enterprise.
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 8:09 am
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:09 am to ragincajun03
All I know is this guy is pissed....


Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:15 am to Jcorye1
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thin mask of free enterprise.
Certainly a look the current President is familiar with right?
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:21 am to Lakeboy7
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ET has enough problems getting out of its own way.
I'll just say this...I have over the years preferred working with them more than Enterprise.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:21 am to ragincajun03
The big winner in this is the petrochemical industry in the US which will be flooded with less than cheaper than dirt NGLs for feedstock. We are already the lowest cost producer.
This is why all of the world scale ethylene plants began being built in between Lake Chuck and Corpus Christi, especially Lake Chuck, over a decade ago. It's not because of natural gas but what is in WET natural gas,which isn't in Haynesville or Barnett basins
The losers over at the Hayride never understood this.
This is why all of the world scale ethylene plants began being built in between Lake Chuck and Corpus Christi, especially Lake Chuck, over a decade ago. It's not because of natural gas but what is in WET natural gas,which isn't in Haynesville or Barnett basins
The losers over at the Hayride never understood this.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:24 am to ragincajun03
You have to have a license to cut someone’s hair in this country, you telling me you don’t have to have a license to export Ethane to china?
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:28 am to ragincajun03
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I'll just say this...I have over the years preferred working with them more than Enterprise
Hey man dont get me going on ET I dont want to blow up your thread.
A very frustrating outfit to be invested in, should be a 50-60 dollar stock, trades at 17-18.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:34 am to ragincajun03
Pretty sure China took close to 50% of the US ethane exports last year which was about 230K BPD.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:34 am to SuperSaint
Should have a license to export to a non FTA country.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:37 am to Lakeboy7
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Certainly a look the current President is familiar with right?
I am apathetic at best about Trump, and feel no need to defend him. I'm not apathetic about countries that abuse human rights to artificially keep labor cheap to flood our markets with poorly made dog shite. The company already chose more government when it did business in China, so I'm not sure "zomg but less government" is a great argument.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:39 am to Lakeboy7
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Hey man dont get me going on ET I dont want to blow up your thread.
Ehh...I start these threads just to have some O&G/PetroChem discussion on the board. It's also why though it's a "political" article, I prefer to post here on the OT to not get drowned over there with MAGA vs un-MAGA. So carry on and contribute.
I've worked a ton with ETC, DPC, Western Gas, and Enterprise over the past 15-20 years. Enterprise sure seems to be the bigger, and maybe for shareholders, better run midstream game in town between them four. However, as far as working directly with the people on specific projects, for some reason EPD has seemed more abrasive. Maybe they just don't like me.
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 8:43 am
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:40 am to Jcorye1
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I am apathetic at best about Trump, and feel no need to defend him. I'm not apathetic about countries that abuse human rights to artificially keep labor cheap to flood our markets with poorly made dog shite.
+1
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:44 am to Jcorye1
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The company already chose more government when it did business in China, so I'm not sure "zomg but less government" is a great argument.
You are right of course.
But when the kick in your arse lands on your wallet you grasp for straws.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:56 am to CitizenK
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The losers over at the Hayride never understood this.
If they knew about O&G industry, they wouldn't have laid down for Jeff Landry's Gov campaign in 2023.
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